The End - 2000 to 2009

I found these videos on YouTube. They made me really sad. I feel like crying, but my anger is preventing me. The world needs to see this. I do not think all Israel children are like this, but these are the extremist amongst them. They need to stop. The Israeli soldeirs hardly do anything to stop them.

The organization that filmed these videos has a website called The Tel Rumeida Project, which focuses on the most extremist and brutal attack by Israeli settlers against the Palestinans in the town of Tel Rumeida.

Wake up USA! Look at what you are supporting and funding!

May Allah (swt) protect the innocent and provide justice to those in need. May Allah (swt) punish those who are unjust and those who kill innoccent human beings. May Allah (swt) free the Palestinian people from the occupying Israeli government. Ameen!


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    1. W Ali July 4th, 2006 at 10:43 pm

      yes, that is very sad. ameen.

    2. Malak July 5th, 2006 at 12:05 am

      Allahuma Ameen. And yet, through all of this, Palestinians have never lost faith. may Allah bring peace into the hearts of all those who are suffering whether they be in Palestine, Kashmir, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Sudan, or Iraq.

    3. Abdul Rahman Hilmi July 5th, 2006 at 2:54 am

      bismillah
      assalamu alaikum

      subhaan Allah akhi! “Wake up America”?? Is that the nusra you’re looking for? Our salvation is now with the US? Akhi say “wake up Muslims”. We are the ones that should wake up. We are supposed to solve our own problems. Last time the US tried to solve one of our problems they occupied Iraq!

      Subhan Allah! Wake up America?? No, stay asleep America, because I long for the day when the Muslims wake up and will crush your skull (by ‘you’ I mean the US).

    4. bro July 5th, 2006 at 4:30 am

      As sallamu alaikum

      Br. Mujahideen Ryder, do you have an e-mail address. I need to e-mail you regarding something.

      Jazak Allah Khair.

    5. Muslim July 5th, 2006 at 5:18 am

      Man… Videos like these make you wonder why Hitler didn’t finish the job.

    6. Ahmed July 5th, 2006 at 5:39 am

      I guess this is why some people say there are no Israeli civilians.

    7. Munzareen July 5th, 2006 at 7:25 am

      It is an extrememly sad situation especially when people turn a blind eye to the victims on either side. As for the person who said that the Muslims need to wake up. You’re right. We sit here idly doing nothing. And we don’t speak out against wrongs committed in our own communities (ex.Darfur). Those in power should implent Islam in their lives and realize that Allah placed them in those stations of power for a reason and that they should speak out for justice.

      But the US does need to wake up as well. Yes, the Muslims should be self sufficient but that doesn’t mean the US is right. They support Israel in everything. Granted Egypt gets the largest amount of aid after Israel, but seriously, they take no steps towards peace and continue to be the agressors. Are their citizens that have open minds and understand? Yes. They should be heard more.

      And the Hitler comment? I’d suppose you were joking but seriously we should watch those comments. Not because the FBI is watching (though they probably are), but because innocents were killed. And I don’t want to get into a debate about how all Jews are bad. Because they’re not and most people know that the Jews deserve respect as well (Ahl al Kitab).

      May Allah protect those who fight in His way. May Allah grant the innocent victims of this fight Jannah for their patience. Verily, Allah is with those whom are patient.

    8. Mujahideen Ryder July 5th, 2006 at 7:59 am

      Abdul Rahman Hilmi on July 5, 2006 at 2:54 am said:

      bismillah
      assalamu alaikum

      subhaan Allah akhi! “Wake up America”?? Is that the nusra you’re looking for? Our salvation is now with the US? Akhi say “wake up Muslims”. We are the ones that should wake up. We are supposed to solve our own problems. Last time the US tried to solve one of our problems they occupied Iraq!

      Subhan Allah! Wake up America?? No, stay asleep America, because I long for the day when the Muslims wake up and will crush your skull (by ‘you’ I mean the US).

      When I say ‘Wake up America’ I mean the people who actually have money and a voice to Israel including the Muslims in the US. We can change this. If these videos were to be publicly shown on national television here in America, it would look really bad for Israel. Americans will act. Especially all those human rights activists whether Muslim or non-Muslim.

      Yes we as Muslims should also wake up, but that is by default. Muslims should be making dua and trying to do what they can regardless. This is part of our deen. So saying “Wakeup Muslims” is nothing.

    9. Mujahideen Ryder July 5th, 2006 at 8:01 am

      Muslim on July 5, 2006 at 5:18 am said:

      Man… Videos like these make you wonder why Hitler didn’t finish the job.

      Hitler hated Muslims. He hated everyone except who he liked.

    10. Sheraz July 5th, 2006 at 9:05 am

      [33.61] “Wherever they are found they shall be seized and murdered”

      [5.60] “Say : ‘Shall I tell you who will receive a worse recompense from Allah than that? Those whom Allah has cursed and with whom He is angry, and made some of them apes and swine, and those who worship the devil. The place of these is worse, and they have strayed further from the Right Path.”

      [5.64] “The Jews say : ‘The Hand of Allah is chained.’ Their own hands are chained! And they are cursed for what they said! Rather, His Hands are both outstretched, He spends as He will. That which Allah has sent down to you will surely increase the tyranny and disbelief of many of them. We have stirred among them enmity and hatred up until the Day of Resurrection. Whenever they kindle the fire of war, Allah extinguishes it. They spread corruption in the land, and Allah does not love those who corrupt.”

      “The Children of Israel break their covenant with Allah [4.154-155]”
      “The disbelief of the Children of Israel, their killing of some of their prophets and their slander of the Virgin Mary [4.155-156]”

      [4.155] “So, for their breaking of the covenant, and disbelieving the verses of Allah, and killing their Prophets without right …, except for a few, they do not believe. ”

      [29.45] “Islam is to be preached in the best manner and not by terrorism.”

      [29.46] “And do not dispute with the People of the Book (Nazarenes) except in the best manner, except for those among them who do wrong …”

      The Jews are cursed in our holy Koran, and nothing what you can say will not change the Koran.
      All the Jews are not bad, according to you menzareen, Koran thinks the opposite. Israeli behave in a inhuman way with the Palestinians and frankly I cannot think bad about the comment of Muslim, I think simply that many of you share his/her opinion.

      The reality is that the Jews want simply the extermination of the Palestinians.

    11. Omar July 5th, 2006 at 9:21 am

      Sheraz, you are right, we cannot deny the Quran. So read the whole thing.

      “And there are, certainly, among the People of the Book [Jews and Christians], those who believe in God, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to God: They will not sell the Signs of God for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord, and God is swift in account. (The Noble Quran, 3:199)”

    12. Debbie July 5th, 2006 at 10:04 am

      I pray for the innocent people on all sides. The problem really is NOT the innocent citizens, although you do have instances where they are involved. It is some of the leaders and the radical groups who stir things up.

      The EU just offered to give money directly to the hospitals, doctors, nurses and other medical workers, so they could get paid for their services. But the Hamas leader said “NO, don’t take the money, WE (Hamas) was you to give US the money”. If he truly wanted what was best for the people, he would say, “Yes, please, go ahead and give the money.”

      Anyway I pray for the innocents and I also hope the guilty get what they deserve. Like the American soldier, Green, who raped and killed a young woman and possibly her entire family. I’m American, but that doesn’t matter. The guilty should be punished and this soldier should get the death penalty.

      By the way Ryder,

      Just wanted to say I’m going ‘undercover’ for almost 2 weeks starting Saturday. I will be posting as much as I can at Right Truth, but Chad from In the Bullpen will be posting for me while I’m gone.

      He is an excellent commentator, extremely knowledgeable on the global war on terror. He also loves to debate with visitors. I hope everybody will check in, read the posts, comment, and keep Right Truth alive and well while I’m busy. I’ll try to do the same for you when you are out-of-pocket in you want.

      I’m going into Canada, crossing the border in more than one place, checking out border patrol. Also going to Ontario, Toronto and other areas where terrorists have been active recently. Then to Horseshoe Falls, Niagara Falls, New York, and working my way back to the ‘deep south’.

      Should lead to some good posts and good pictures.

      Thanks
      Debbie

    13. Samir July 5th, 2006 at 10:39 am

      Salam,

      The Palestinian-Israeli conflict will never end until the war between the Muslims and the Jews take place. It will be ‘Isa (as) against Dajjal. The solution to this conflict is Jihad fe Sabeelillah. Don’t beat around the bush and think money and protests can bring an end to this historical conflict. The Messenger of Allah (s) already told us what the solution would be.

      Samir

    14. Mujahideen Ryder July 5th, 2006 at 11:48 am

      Samir on July 5, 2006 at 10:39 am said:

      Salam,

      The Palestinian-Israeli conflict will never end until the war between the Muslims and the Jews take place. It will be ‘Isa (as) against Dajjal. The solution to this conflict is Jihad fe Sabeelillah. Don’t beat around the bush and think money and protests can bring an end to this historical conflict. The Messenger of Allah (s) already told us what the solution would be.

      Samir

      A war between Muslims and Jews? Muslims are fighting each other. Do you honestly think ‘Isa will want to kill every single Jew in the world? SubhanAllah! No way!

      The Prophet Muhammad (peace and belssings be upon him) did not preach this at all. Please look at what are beloved Messenger said:

      “The Dajjal will come and encamp at a place close to Medina and then Medina will shake thrice whereupon every Kafir (disbeliever) and hypocrite will go out (of Medina) towards him.”
      (Bukhari Volume 9 Number 247)

      “The Dajjal would be followed by seventy thousand Jews of Isfahan wearing Persian shawls”
      (Muslim Number 7034)

      The Jews of Isfahan. 70,000
      I don’t think that’s all of the Jews in the world today.

    15. Yaser July 5th, 2006 at 12:09 pm

      Let’s leave the signs at the end out of this debate. But Samir’s comment is more or less right. The conflict will not end until the return of ‘Isa (Jesus) (عليه سلم). This is well established, because he will destroy all the myths built up around him. He is also the ones who gets rid of ad-Dajjal. And Samir didn’t say ‘Isa will kill each jew, I think you read too quickly or soemthing. And, the ahadeeth dealing with the end are numerous and there are more then just what you quoted, he will end up in Palestine, and seiging Damaascus at point. But the resolution to the conflict will be then. And the Hitler comment, you’re an idiot. We stand on the side of justice, no matter what. And the comment on the Qur’anic view on Banee Israaeel, you are right, unfortunately tou just picked out verses here and there and you didn’t include how the Prophet and the Companions actually dealt with the Jews. Allah (swt) reprimands many people, including muslims, (Oh you who believe, why do you say that which you do not do?). But, there was still respect between the Jews and the Muslims, for 14 centuries. The present conflict is the unfortuante backtab that the ummah had to experience after the result of Hitler’s madness. Whether the present conflict is the one that will be ended by ‘Isa or another one, Allahu A’lam. I am not goign to bother editing or reading my comments over so if there are any mistakes forgive me.

    16. Mujahideen Ryder July 5th, 2006 at 12:25 pm

      ‘Isa (as) killing the Dajjal is much greater then the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It is the elimination of evil and the establishment of peace.

    17. Abdul Rahman Hilmi July 5th, 2006 at 1:20 pm

      bismillah
      assalamu alaikum

      the claim that the war will not end until Isa (as) comes is most likely to be false. There is no shariah evidence of such talk and so saying it serves no purpose other than demotivation. Just like people who come up and say that our problems will never be solved until the Mahdi comes. Says who exactly? Where did you get that from?

      As for Debbie’s post, I don’t mean to be rude but, was that a joke post or are you actually serious?

      "Just wanted to say I’m going ‘undercover’ for almost 2 weeks starting Saturday. I will be posting as much as I can...
      ...I’m going into Canada, crossing the border in more than one place, checking out border patrol. Also going to Ontario, Toronto and other areas where terrorists have been active recently. Then to Horseshoe Falls, Niagara Falls, New York, and working my way back to the ‘deep south’.

      Reading the first sentence I thought you’ll be going to Afghanistan or Pakistan or Somalia or Egypt but then it turns out you’ll be undecover in Ontario, Toronto and Niagara Falls!!! I can’t stop laughing!!! God! I almost fell off my chair when I first read this!!!! hehehehe, make sure you take alot of pictures, I hear the weather is kinda nice!! hehehe!!!

    18. Samir July 5th, 2006 at 10:32 pm

      Salam,

      I didn’t say ‘Isa (as) would single handily kill all the Jews. I said the conflict in Palestine will end with the war between Muslims and Jews. The Muslims will have ‘Isa (as) on their side and the Jews will have Dajjal on their side. There are ahadith in Bukhari and Muslim that speak about the actual battle where rocks and trees will say to the Muslims, “Oh Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him!” Those aren’t my words. Those are the words of our Rasool (s). If for a second you feel hatred in your heart for these words, I advise you to study your Deen in regards to Jihad.

      Therefore, money, protests, Islamic Conferences, writing letters to your senator, etc. does nothing. Jihad fe Sabeelillah was the method adopted by the Sahaba and is the method that we must adopt, otherwise we will be humiliated like we are today. We have given up Jihad as a majority:

      Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar: I heard the Apostle of Allah, (sallallaahu `alayhi wa-sallam) say: “When you enter into the in a transaction, hold the tails of cows, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad, Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original Deen (i.e., True Islam).” (Sunan Abu Dawud: Book 23, Number 3455)

      Walahi, if you “sit and wait” for this event of Jihad to come, you will be on the recieving end. Death will approach you. You cannot escape it. You cannot be cured from it. The one who procrastinates is the one who goes to hellfire. This Deen is about taking action; not waiting. Waiting here has nothing to do with Sabr, for Sabr implies being patient on this path and as well as firm.

      If you really want to learn about Islamic Eschatology, and want to know where I’m getting all of this from, I suggest you read Shaykh Imran N. Hosein’s book entitled, “Jerusalem in the Qur’an.” You can find it on imranhosein.org In regards to Jihad, visit my blog and listen to Imam Anwar al Awlaki’s whole lecture series on “Mashari” and “Thawaabit”.

      Ya akhi, I advise you, don’t fall into the trap of thinking that “The Prophet didn’t fight in the Meccan Stage, therefore, we shouldn’t fight.” Walahi, if you even consider this, then you might as well reject all the ahadith and ayaat on Jihad. Wa Naudhobillah, maybe you should even reject this hadith,

      “The blood of a Muslim is worth more than the Ka’aba.” (Sunan Ibn Majah; Silsilah El Saheehah: hadith #3420; Saheeh El Targheeb wal Tarheeb: hadith #2441)

      If the Ka’aba were attacked today by the kuffar, what would you do? Give money? Protest? Go to Islamic Conferences? Sing Nasheeds? Write some entries? And eventually forget about it? Muslim blood is worth more than the Ka’aba said the Prophet (s). This blood is spilled everyday. Be truthful to yourself.

      Samir

    19. mujahideenryder July 5th, 2006 at 10:52 pm

      Samir on July 5, 2006 at 10:32 pm said:

      Salam,

      I didn’t say ‘Isa (as) would single handily kill all the Jews. I said the conflict in Palestine will end with the war between Muslims and Jews. The Muslims will have ‘Isa (as) on their side and the Jews will have Dajjal on their side. There are ahadith in Bukhari and Muslim that speak about the actual battle where rocks and trees will say to the Muslims, “Oh Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him!” Those aren’t my words. Those are the words of our Rasool (s). If for a second you feel hatred in your heart for these words, I advise you to study your Deen in regards to Jihad.

      Therefore, money, protests, Islamic Conferences, writing letters to your senator, etc. does nothing. Jihad fe Sabeelillah was the method adopted by the Sahaba and is the method that we must adopt, otherwise we will be humiliated like we are today. We have given up Jihad as a majority:

      Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar: I heard the Apostle of Allah, (sallallaahu `alayhi wa-sallam) say: “When you enter into the in a transaction, hold the tails of cows, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad, Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original Deen (i.e., True Islam).” (Sunan Abu Dawud: Book 23, Number 3455)

      Walahi, if you “sit and wait” for this event of Jihad to come, you will be on the recieving end. Death will approach you. You cannot escape it. You cannot be cured from it. The one who procrastinates is the one who goes to hellfire. This Deen is about taking action; not waiting. Waiting here has nothing to do with Sabr, for Sabr implies being patient on this path and as well as firm.

      If you really want to learn about Islamic Eschatology, and want to know where I’m getting all of this from, I suggest you read Shaykh Imran N. Hosein’s book entitled, “Jerusalem in the Qur’an.” You can find it on imranhosein.org In regards to Jihad, visit my blog and listen to Imam Anwar al Awlaki’s whole lecture series on “Mashari” and “Thawaabit”.

      Ya akhi, I advise you, don’t fall into the trap of thinking that “The Prophet didn’t fight in the Meccan Stage, therefore, we shouldn’t fight.” Walahi, if you even consider this, then you might as well reject all the ahadith and ayaat on Jihad. Wa Naudhobillah, maybe you should even reject this hadith,

      “The blood of a Muslim is worth more than the Ka’aba.” (Sunan Ibn Majah; Silsilah El Saheehah: hadith #3420; Saheeh El Targheeb wal Tarheeb: hadith #2441)

      If the Ka’aba were attacked today by the kuffar, what would you do? Give money? Protest? Go to Islamic Conferences? Sing Nasheeds? Write some entries? And eventually forget about it? Muslim blood is worth more than the Ka’aba said the Prophet (s). This blood is spilled everyday. Be truthful to yourself.

      Samir

      so basically we just study the deen and wait for ‘Isa? I find this hard to understand your point. You say Muslim blood is worth more then the Kaaba. I agree. So we should do things. I would feel guilty just sitting there doing nothing. I can’t go and fight. So instead, I can support by sending money to the poor suffering Muslims. I can make dua for them. I can speak out against the injustice. I can call upon Muslim governments and non-Muslim governments to help stop this or should we just sit and wait for ‘Isa to come?

      You have contradicting views on what you believe.

      I apologize for misunderstanding you. Yaser was right I read your comment to fast. I thought you wanted to kill all the Jews in the world.

      I know Shaykh Imran Hosein really well. My father and him are good friends. I haven’t seen him in ages, since he left Masjid Darul Quran. I know of the book you are talking about. My father has it somewhere.

      What I personally feel is that we should not just sit and wait or just leave everything and go fight in Jihad.

      About the Meccan period vs Medinan period. Currently as American Muslim in America, I personally feel it is similar to the Meccan period, BUT in other parts of the world it is straight up Medina in terms of Jihad, nothing else.

      Honestly it is very hard for me to accept many of the actions of some Muslims who think they are Mujahideen. In the whole entire histoy of the Prophet (saas) he never attacked or killed another Muslim in Jihad nor did he support suicide attempts. In the current times, some so called ‘mujahideen’ kill there own Muslims and do this via suicide bombers. I do not see how this is following the sunnah. There is no proof by the scholars (whether from al-azhar, deoband, sufis or salafis).

      The mujahideen in Chechyna and some in Iraq are still true mujahideen. Maybe some in Palestine, but from what I see, it is very political and nationalistic. Sudan is Muslim vs Muslim, which is sad.

      The Ummah has a serious problem. We have Jihad amongst each other which needs to stop.

      Samir, what does your Ameer say about all this?

    20. Samir July 5th, 2006 at 11:25 pm

      Salam,

      I never said we should study the Deen and wait for ‘Isa. What excuse do you have for not fighting? You don’t have money? Then get a job. Parents disagree? Well Jihad is fard al ‘ayn so disobeying your parents in this matter is a virtue since you are obeying Allah. As far as I know, you are in good shape, good health, and you have interest in your Deen. Allah says in Surah at Tauba: March forth whether you are light or heavy.

      Regarding the Meccan period, you said that living in America is like the Meccan phase but elsewhere it’s straight up Medina phase. Well, do you believe this Ummah is one Ummah as Allah and His Messenger (s) said repeatedly? Or do you think that there is such a thing as different Ummah’s and we shouldn’t bother about what’s going on to our bretheren elsewhere? Do you really think the Muslims in America are discharged of their Islamic obligations of helping the Ummah around the world? Do you seriously think that there is such a thing as the “American Ummah” and the “Middle-East Ummah”? Do you really think there is such a thing called, “American Muslim” and that we are relieved from certain Islamic obligations? Don’t fool yourself in believing that “American Muslim Identity” crisis. There is no other identity except of having the identity of a Mu’min. The Mu’min is a Mujahid.

      As for your assumptions on Muslims killing Muslims, “suicide” bombings and not that many true Mujahideen, I advise you to seek the proper source. Go to those places and get the information yourself. There are more Munafiqeen in this Ummah than Mu’mineen. Not fighting alongside Muslims that are weak in Islamic Knowledge is not an excuse. The greater harm is to have the kuffar take over Muslim lands.

      I don’t have an Ameer. I’m not in Tanzeem. I don’t stick around cowards and brothers who only talk.

      Samir

    21. Abdul Rahman Hilmi July 6th, 2006 at 1:29 am

      bismillah
      assalamu alaikum

      Actually, if we look at the seerah of the prophet and the times of revelations of the verses of Quran, we will see that;
      (a)the prophet (pbuh) never raised a sword against Quraish or any of the Kuffaar of the time before the Higra. We should ask our selves why?
      (b)the prophet (pbuh) only organised a military wing (or in other words, the Islamic army) after he established the Islamic state in Madinah.
      (c)the orders of Allah for the prophet (pbuh) to fight jihaad were only revealed after the Higra and are mostly (if not all) Madinan.

      These are facts and there is no point in arguing them. What we should now ask ourselves is ‘why?’ The prophet (pbhuh) obeyed Allah and Allah showed the prophet a method to bring the Muslims from a small band of outcasts into a great nation. If we apply the sunnah into our lives, then this method is part of the sunnah and likewise should also be followed. That does not mean, however, that the resistance to occupation and oppression is wrong, no, that is a fard to protect your land and family. However, that is not a solution. The solution is in establishing the Islamic political entity that will rule and represent Muslims on the world stage.

      Umar bin Khataab once said “there can be no Islam without unity, no unity without leadership, and no leadership without obediance.”

      wassalam

    22. Ahmed July 6th, 2006 at 6:36 am

      Samir on July 5, 2006 at 11:25 pm said:

      Salam,

      I never said we should study the Deen and wait for ‘Isa. What excuse do you have for not fighting? You don’t have money? Then get a job. Parents disagree? Well Jihad is fard al ‘ayn so disobeying your parents in this matter is a virtue since you are obeying Allah. As far as I know, you are in good shape, good health, and you have interest in your Deen. Allah says in Surah at Tauba: March forth whether you are light or heavy.

      Regarding the Meccan period, you said that living in America is like the Meccan phase but elsewhere it’s straight up Medina phase. Well, do you believe this Ummah is one Ummah as Allah and His Messenger (s) said repeatedly? Or do you think that there is such a thing as different Ummah’s and we shouldn’t bother about what’s going on to our bretheren elsewhere? Do you really think the Muslims in America are discharged of their Islamic obligations of helping the Ummah around the world? Do you seriously think that there is such a thing as the “American Ummah” and the “Middle-East Ummah”? Do you really think there is such a thing called, “American Muslim” and that we are relieved from certain Islamic obligations? Don’t fool yourself in believing that “American Muslim Identity” crisis. There is no other identity except of having the identity of a Mu’min. The Mu’min is a Mujahid.

      As for your assumptions on Muslims killing Muslims, “suicide” bombings and not that many true Mujahideen, I advise you to seek the proper source. Go to those places and get the information yourself. There are more Munafiqeen in this Ummah than Mu’mineen. Not fighting alongside Muslims that are weak in Islamic Knowledge is not an excuse. The greater harm is to have the kuffar take over Muslim lands.

      I don’t have an Ameer. I’m not in Tanzeem. I don’t stick around cowards and brothers who only talk.

      Samir

      So do you “only talk”? Or have you fought? If you have, then I respect you for that.

    23. Samir July 6th, 2006 at 1:39 pm

      Salam,

      Use Hikmah Br. Ahmed.

      Br. Abdur Rahman, I have already addressed that point of the Meccan phase in the post before. If you want to split up the Ummah into American, Egyptian, Iraqi, Afghani, Sheeshani etc. then you are violating the words of Allah and His Messenger.

      Yes, ‘Umar (ra) was correct when he said there can be no Islam without jama’ah, no jama’ah without an Ameer, and no Ameer without bai’yah. That has nothing to do with Meccan period. The Mujahideen are organized with an Ameer and give bai’yah to him; they will repel the enemy out of their lands and establish Islam. And what is better than fighting for the cause of Allah and searching for martyrdom?

      Samir

    24. Abdul Rahman Hilmi July 6th, 2006 at 1:46 pm

      bismillah
      assalamu alaikum
      akhi Samer, where exactly did I say anything that could possibly imply that I want to divide the Muslims into Iraqis, Afghanis, Sheeshani, etc? As a matter of fact, just a couple of weeks ago I had an argument with MR because he called himself a “proud American Muslim”.

      As for the Meccan phase, I scanned through all your previous posts in this topic and the only one you speak about Meccan phase is post 20 and in there you only talk about dividing the Muslims. How exactly is saying that today is a Meccan phase due to the absence of a Khilafah dividing the ummah? The ummah is one ummah and I agree and I never in my life denied that fact. However, I do not see the link you’re trying to make between my claim about the Meccan phase and the unity of the ummah.

      wassalam

    25. Samir July 6th, 2006 at 6:11 pm

      Salam,

      I said this because MR said there are some places in the world where it is Medinan stage and in this part of the world it is Meccan stage. We are one Ummah and (should) feel the pain of other brothers and sisters. They are going through much more pain than we are. They need us over there.

      Samir

    26. Lena July 7th, 2006 at 2:52 am

      This topic always saddens me, I don’t need to watch the clips…the stats are sickening and depressing. Actually, my cousin was telling me a story from the book The Rape of Nanking, and how the Chinese had killed of the Japanese soldiers and as their type of retaliation the Japanese destroyed a Chinese village. Sounds all too familiar.

      Verily, Allah is with the opressed. May Allah grant them patience and high places in Jannah.

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