It’s amazing how France, a country with a very bad religious tolerance policy and communities divided by racism, yet the national footbal team for France is made up of predominently Africans or black players.
Let’s take a look at the players:
 Eric Abidal, born in France, but of Martinque descent. Martinque is a Carribean island. |
 Jean-Alain Boumsong, born in Cameroon. |
 Pascal Chimbonda, born in France, but of Guadeloupian descent. |
 William Gallas, born in France but of Guadeloupian descent. |
 Gael Givet, born in France. He’s French. |
 Willy Sagnol, born in France. He’s French. |
 Mikael Silvestre, born in France. He’s French. |
 Lilian Thruam, born in Guadeloupe. |
 Sidney Govou, born in France, but of Beninese descent. |
 Thierry Henry, born in France, but half Guadeloupian and half Martinique. |
 Louis Saha, born in France, but of Guadeloupian descent. |
 David Trezeguet, bron in France, but of Argentinan descent. He played for Argentina, so did his father. |
 Sylvain Wiltord, born in France, but of Guadeloupian descent. |
 Vikash Dhorasoo, born in France, but of Indo-Mauritian descent (Indians from Mauritis). FIRST DESI PLAYER! haha |
 Alou Diarra, born in France, but of Senegalese descent. |
 Claude Makelele, born in Zaire. |
 Florent Malouda, born in French Guiana (French GUYANA!). |
 Franck Ribery, born in France. He’s French and Muslim married to a Moroccan. His Muslim name is Bilal. |
 Patrick Vieira, born in Sengal. |
 Zinedine Zidane, born in France, but of Algerian descent. I give him mad propz, because he’s married to a Spanish model/dancer. HAHAHA! I am no longer a Zidane hater.  |
As you can see, out of the 23 total players for France, 16 of them are minorities, (13 Black, 1 Spanish, 1 Arab, 1 Desi). Majority of the team are born in France, except for 5 of them.
Congratulations France. You are the first country to ever be represented by so many minorities.Â
I am very close to rooting for France, because of this, especially after I found out Zidane is married to a Spanish model/dancer. Hahah, just kidding, AstagfirAllah! GO ITALY! I’m still mad France beat Brasil!
53 Responses for "The First Majority Black Team to Make it to the World Cup Finals (again): France"
Go France!!
Viva Les Blues!
you have really weird standards.
“Florent Malouda, born in French Guiana (French GUYANA!).”
You are a stupid boy to precise that. Each of these guys are french.
as much as I love Brazil, I have to root for the French team, particularly since Italy knocked out my first choice, Germany. I hope that a world cup victory will change the way minorities are treated in France (I’m really not hopeful about this one). What I can’t understand is how a country so diverse is insistent on supressing their minorites when their contributions have obviously contributed greatly to that overinflated French pride France is famous for. I just the French will always view any different in a orientalist view. Even Jacquess Derrida, on of the most famous philosophers and the pride of French philosophy is Algerian, but the French however still refuse to treat any minority with respect.
So even though I’m rooting for the French, I’m just rooting for the advancement of minorities is France and recognition for their accomplishments.
I retract my above statement because I may be judging the French too harshly. From Sheraz’s comment i’ve realized that the problems in France are not endemic to French minorities but to minorities in other industrial nations like the US and England as well.
in Us its not nearly as bad as in france(i work in corporate America with jalbab + Hijab) and hardly ever felt that im not welcomed here. zidane is grossssssss…….
i said they are all french. but im saying more then half the team is black
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hahahahahha
sheraz is releivin some stress over here. she can’t have a lil joke. all im saying is, france got a mostly black/african team. white french ppl don’t call them french. they call them black french ppl or african french ppl or something similar.
she called me stupid, but sadly, she didn’t read. i am not denying that they are french, im jus saying they black. like in america, African-American is still widely used, even though they were born in america, they not just American, they Afro-American.
even i was born in america, but i still considered guyanese to ppl.
im just saying its funny how the whole country is rooting for a team full of minorities for the world cup and after the world cup is done, they still will have hard time living there.
MR is right in a way, there is still discrimination in France (and Europe) against minorities because these nations are predominantly white…it is rare to see blacks, Arabs, Desis, etc. walking around. In France for example, Franck Ribery did not go public about being a Muslim because he was afraid that he would face discrimination…also in Europe (including France) there is racism in football…why do you think you see “Play fair is my game…Say no to racism” at the center of the field when the teams are singing their national anthems. Fans have thrown bananas on the field, made monkey noises to taunt the black player…some have gone as far to make the Nazi salute…
In America, baseball, basketball, hockey, football, we don’t see these things…I feel that in America, minorities are tolerated much more. Is American society completely color blind? Of course not, but I feel the situation for minorities ,including Muslims, in America is much better because the European nations are strict and adamant in having the minorities completely assimilate to their values…but the United States is a completely pluralistic society…
Sister Sheraz, you would know much better on the situation in France since you live there, but this is what we, in America, see how France is dealing with minorites…for example, in World War I, there were tributes made to Jews and Christians for the battle in Verdun…after about 90 years…France decided to have a tribute to the Muslim veterans…If we are wrong please let us know, and not to seem rude, but please do so in a respectable manner, I felt you were doing well in defending your position, but I lost respect when you started calling MR “stupid” and “idiot”. Maybe it’s just me…
Oh, I am undecided about who to root for this Final…I am leaning toward France because they represent me the best…there is a Muslim guy and a Desi guy…heehee!
…you have too much time dood…
i actually thought france was congo…
Alhamdulillah Allah is most merciful with time. I actually had prepare a khtubah just now, and I just did it in like 5 minutes. LOL, alhamdulillah
khutbah? u r a khateeb
MSA Khateeb during the summer. only about 30-40 ppl come
“All im saying is, france got a mostly black/african team. white french ppl don’t call them french. they call them black french ppl or african french ppl or something similar.”
Ha!ha!ha!ha! MR you are totally wrong, they are all called French. Do not yourselves say afro-American, hispano-American … in the USA to appoint minorities ? I don’t think making a mistake.
“MR is right in a way, there is still discrimination in France (and Europe) against minorities because these nations are predominantly white”
Are not the USA in white dominant? Please MilkShaykh, don’t say to me the opposite, I would not believe you. It is true that in the USA minorities are more visible on the TV and in politics but the country remains mainly white and minorities undergo also discrimination, Afro-Americans, Hispano-Americans, Native Americans as well as the Moslems who are seen as potential terrorists spécially in USA.
Furthermore, a law called “Affirmative Action” was voted in 1961 to ethnic minorities are better represented in the USA.
So, don’t speak to me about the natural tolerance of the Americans. The positive discrimination was created in the United States not only in favour of the descendants of slavery but for all the citizens suffering from discrimination because of their sex or of their ethnic origin. Affirmative action, is a policy or a program of giving certain preferences to certain (usually under-represented) groups. This typically focuses on education, employment, government contracts, health care, or social welfare. (from wikipédia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action
“In France for example, Franck Ribery did not go public about being a Muslim because he was afraid that he would face discrimination…also in Europe (including France) there is racism in football…why do you think you see “Play fair is my game…Say no to racism†at the center of the field when the teams are singing their national anthems. Fans have thrown bananas on the field, made monkey noises to taunt the black player…some have gone as far to make the Nazi salute…”
MilkShaykh, you are totally agree, there is too many racism in football but I think that you make a mistake about countries, it is especially Spain and Italy, Arragones the Spanish trainer offended Thierry Henry “dirty Negro of shit” and during the world cup he offended Viera, Zinedine Zidane told him “shut up” in spanish. The following match, France-Brazil, we were entitled to a huge banderolle “Say no to racism” with a speech of each captain.
Brother MilkShaykh, Yes I know much better on the situation in France since I live there, but this is what you, in America, you see very wrong manner how France is dealing with minorites… I think that the difficulties met in France exists also in Denmark and in Netherlands notably. Of course, there is racism and discriminations in France but you linger too much over France. Several members of my family left to live in England and finally meant living in France. I admit that what can help us is to have a new president. Inchallah, we’ll have a democratic government even if I have nothing against Chirac but his Ministers are bad.
Concerning the World War I you are totally right.
“If we are wrong please let us know, and not to seem rude, but please do so in a respectable manner, I felt you were doing well in defending your position, but I lost respect when you started calling MR “stupid†and “idiotâ€. Maybe it’s just me…”
I always answered in a respectable manner, and when I say idiot and stupid boy it is for titillate MR and it is not nasty. Because if I wanted to be nasty, I would say very American insults, for example “f..k” and not idiot and stupide boy which is not really an insult in french such as “f..k” which are an unrefined and vulgar insult.
“she can’t have a lil joke” Oh lil’ bro’, I have humor, don’t worry for me :).
MashaAllah, Sister Sheraz, you did a goodamount of research…Yes, I know what Affirmative Action is and like I said, American society is not color blind…I can tell you many stories about the discrimination here…if you go to the poverty stricken places of the United States, minorities will BE the majority in those locations and nothing seems to be done. There is discrimination present here (it’s everywhere)…but America is “browning”, there is a great rise in the Hispanic population…I have written many papers in my academic career discussing the discrimination and prejudice against minorities in America, so don’t think that I am saying America exemplifies the ideals of tolerance and openmindedness, the perfect society, there is good and there is bad in America, like I’m pretty sure it is in France and other nations.
Like I said, you know more of what is happening in France…we here are bombarded my news, movies, shows, etc. that have a bias tint towards the French, there will always be the good, the bad, and the ugly in every group you meet. And that is why when we are wrong about France, please correct us…
Thank you for correcting me and please forgive me if I offended you in anyway.
Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh
as salaam alakim GO France,Im so proud of my team,I have french ancestors and also Muslim ones,also im proud of a muslim being on the team,go Bilal.
This is so sad. We have Muslim American patriots arguing with Muslim French patriots about which country is better when Muslims are second-class citizens in both.
^^^ LoL @ Muslim’s comment ^^^
I didn’t know Derrida was Algerian. You learn something all the time. Even when you’re wasting time on the internet :(.
“This is so sad. We have Muslim American patriots arguing with Muslim French patriots about which country is better when Muslims are second-class citizens in both.”
In the first place, I’m not patriot, absolutely not. The Americans are patriots and it gives me envy to roar. Secondly, I don’t discuss with you, I try simply to rectify a little the so negative vision that you have about France.
It is really bizarre, in France we have a negative vision of Bush and his government. Concerning France, the Americans have a negative vision of all the country, really strange.
The USA are a big country, there are States with majority black or cities such as Chicago, or with Hispanic majority such as New Mexico, Florida… But France, it is not the similar, there is naturally cities with a strong majority of immigrants but it is an immigration generally. It is not such city population is Black Africans, a another one the Asians, a another one Arabs.
Except, the capital or the big cities such as Marseille … where there are districts with strong majority African (including Arabs), indo-Pakistani, Chinese, Italians,… the rest of cities, when there is immigration it is a mixed immigration from several continents (Arabs, black Africans, Chineses, Indians, Pakistani …) living with a white population. Naturally, there are more cities with white dominant than with colored dominant.
I don’t say that there is perfect and cordial agreement but the division by community ethnic and by district or by city exists little in France. After, we can speak about living conditions in certain cities, there, it is other thing (social question). About big squalid buildings built in the 1960s and become really unhealthy.
MilkShaykh, you have nothing to blame you, really I assure you my brother ;).
it’s not really divided by race or ethnicity, but by wealth. there are rich neighborhoods and poor neighborhoods. most minorities are poor and many of the rich are mostly white ppl. that’s why it seems segregated.
source: http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/06/news/pew3.php
Just a headsup, Zidane is a Kabylie berber… not Arab… and he claims himself to be a non-practicing Muslim…
Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! Ha! Are you serious ? Ya rabi help him to understand a little, amine !
It is not the same case in the United States and in the societies of the whole world ?
But the difference in France, it is because the immigrants are mixed (Africans, Asians …), there are no cities, no districts typically Arabs, Asians,…, such as in the USA where there are whole districts of Hispanic immigration speaking only Spanish and not english and others speak only chinese.
The Afro-americans with the Afro-americans, the Hispanic with the Hispanic, that it is of the segregation, the Native Americans live in reserves. Are they all richer than the whites ? Have they a standard of living higher than the Whites ? certainly not.
Yepp, I read that as well. First, I was all rooting for him b/c he was Muslim…then when I read he considered himself a non-practicing I was like screw it. ahh well.
you need to come to new york. black ppl live next to white ppl who live next to spanish ppl who live next to indian ppl. my neighbors are italians, chinese, and iranians, and i live in the suburbs.
it is not segregated by race. it is my finiancial status. there are millions of poor white americans too. in the rural areas.
Dude, why did you remove my comment? Do you hate America?
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USA! All the way!
Anyway, as I said before, the important thing to know is that the US would whup France in a war.
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USA! All the way!
your comment was so disrepectful. who cares if america is better than france. Islam comes first. we are all Muslims first. america may be better in terms of treatment to minorities and openness to religion than france, but we shouldn’t say it in a harsh and deragtory way.
I’m Muslim first. Always Islam first.
MR is right that US society is segregated by financial status, BUT, this status influences racial divisions. African Americans, Native Americans, Latinos are not affluent or successful as the whites or Asians (from the Far East, Desis, etc). MashaAllah, I live in a town where it is middle class, and all you see are white people, my school was like 95% white. When I lived in another town which was not as wealthy as the one that I am living in, there were more Hispanics and African Americans there. Therefore, it is, in my opinion, that society is segregated in terms of financial statuses, which ultimately influence racial barriers. And these financial setbacks lead to minorities being exposed to places with high waves of crime and school districts that are terribly funded…so therefore, like I mentioned, the financial situations influence these racial division in the USA. InshaAllah something can be done so that all are given financial prosperity and receive equal facilities.
so i heard zinedine zidane is muslim? who knows.
I believed that I was really going to choke by reading certain comments. In France, the Moslems have a negative vision of Bush and his government and not all the country. I don’t think, to have call to the hatred of the Americans and the USA.
“you need to come to new york. black ppl live next to white ppl who live next to spanish ppl who live next to indian ppl. my neighbors are italians, chinese, and iranians, and i live in the suburbs.
it is not segregated by race. it is my finiancial status. there are millions of poor white americans too. in the rural areas.”
I’m going to repeat but in France it is similar MR. Black people live next to white people who live next to Arabs people who live next to Asiatics people, my neighbors are turkishs, africans, asiatics … and i live also in the suburbs of Paris.
I find that my city is very colored (for a city of 22 000 inhabitants) and Paris even more. Arabs, black africans, Indian, Pakistani, Chinese, Vietnamese, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, British, American, Irish…. And I don’t speak about tourists but about the population which lives in France.
“america may be better in terms of treatment to minorities and openness to religion than france, but we shouldn’t say it in a harsh and deragtory way.”
My lil’ bro’, I don’t still share your opinion concerning the USA but I thank you.
France is doesn’t allow hijab, turbans, the Jewish caps, and any other religous signs in schools. America allows it.
And you are telling me France is better then America?
Hint Hint…LOOK AT HIS NAME. lol! Yes he is Muslim, although he considers himself a non practicing Muslim. However, that does not take him out the fold of al-Islam. wa Allahu Alam.
France allll the wayyyy. w000t. ok i need to go back to watch the game.
DAMN DAMN FRANCE LOST. screw italy argh
why did zidane head butt that guy..why why why!!!
I’m soo disappointed in him…now it’s going to be even more difficult for muslims in france..why!!!!!!!
my God, Zidane deserved it! i just feel bad for Ribery (have to support my muslim bros)
How is it going to be more difficult for Muslims in France now?
And did he really deserve a red card Shab?
Read again my posts because I have it enough to repeat. I don’t think one moment to have write that.
Muslims got jobs in America. What about France?
ha! ha ! ha ! ha! I’m not going to answer you because a law was voted so that minorities can have some work in the USA. The state obliged companies, universities, hospital … to welcome minorities. A law “Affirmative action” to accustom the whites to live and to work with people of color.
That’s only for Black people.
Exactly, so as Mujahideen Ryder said, Muslims in the US got work, Muslims in France don’t. What’s your point?
ha! hA!ha! ha! ha! A law called “Affirmative Action†was voted in 1961 to ethnic minorities are better represented in the USA.
The positive discrimination was created in the United States not only in favour of the descendants of slavery but for all the citizens suffering from discrimination because of their sex or of their ethnic origin. Affirmative action, is a policy or a program of giving certain preferences to certain (usually under-represented) groups. This typically focuses on education, employment, government contracts, health care, or social welfare. (from wikipédia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action
In the U.S., affirmative action programs at universities benefit mostly African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Native Americans and women (in engineering and the physical sciences). Asian Americans, although a racial minority, do not benefit at most colleges because the rate of college education among Asian Americans is higher than the other racial groups (including whites).
American natural tolerance, of course
you just proved that america is more open then france by your comment.
subhanAllah. can someone please tell me if i read her comment right?
No guy, you have a real problem of understanding.
This message shows you that if this law had not been voted, the ethnic minorities of the USA would have had no access to the university, to the work, to the health…..
In France, the care are totally free for the most deprived, the universities are accessible for every French and student foreign (without that France votes a law)…
The most poor (and not deprived), I made an mistake :(.
salam
Thierry Henry is Muslim too. He helped with the anti racism campaign after he signed some sorta contract with Nike.
But he IS muslim =) alhamdulilla
i think france has the most muslim players that any other non muslim country/ I herd a rumor the Theirry Henry has converted or is going to convert to islam.
and i didn’t read the last comment so i guess the rumors are true
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