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Israel has started a war!

  • Author: MR
  • Filed under: Islam, News
  • Date: Jul 13,2006 | 11:30 AM

The US-backed Israel has launched a war against Palestine and Lebanon. They have killed over 100 citizens and continue to do so. George Bush has defended Israel saying:

“Israel has the right to defend herself,” Bush said. “Secondly, whatever Israel does though should not weaken the Siniora government in Lebanon,” he added, referring to Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora.
Source: Bush defends Israel, warns against weakening Beirut | Reuters

Israel has invaded the Gaza Strip with reports of inncoent Palestinian children killed by the Israeli army:

Palestinian medical sources in the Gaza Strip reported that five children were killed and at least seven were injured after Israeli soldiers fired a missile at a playground in Dir Al Balah, in the central Gaza Strip.
Source: Five children killed, seven injured in Israeli airstrike on playground | International Middle East Media Center

The Israeli army are the terrorists now:

Overnight Israeli attacks in southern Lebanon killed 35 civilians and wounded dozens more, Lebanese security officials said. A family of 10 and another family of seven were killed in their homes in the village of Dweir near Nabatiyeh, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity as they were not authorized to speak to the press.
Source: Israeli warplanes attack Beirut airport | Yahoo News

The World leaders are silent and have not condemned Israel!

The Muslims have awoke and are making constant prayer for the innocent people suffering in this war that has been started by the terrorising Israeli army.

May Allah (swt) destroy the oppressors. May Allah (swt) protect the innocent. May Allah (swt) bring peace to the people. Ameen!


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    1. Malak. July 13th, 2006 at 1:13 pm

      Im so disturbed by the actions of Israeli government under the new leadership of Yossi Olmert. However, what bothers me a lot more is the fact that all the Arab and Muslim nations are quiet! They just sit back and watch not realizng it could be any of them next. This situation proves Israel is the REAL threat in the Middle East… a very blood hunger government.

      man all the best to my Lebanese people. i have so many relatives there …. i just hope everyone is OK. they cant handle another war. The effects of the civial war not so long ago are still with them :(

    2. Iram July 13th, 2006 at 2:06 pm

      This is outragous, how can this be…once again the world stands by and watches the murders of the inocents-the men, the women and the children. It’s beyond comprehention.May Allah bring peace into the hearts of our dear brothers and sisters and may we lay our complete Trust in Him.Truly in the remeberance Allah do hearts find ease.

    3. Avicenna July 13th, 2006 at 4:32 pm

      “The World leaders are silent and have not condemned Israel!”

      Not entirely true, but the US will have none of it:

      US vetoes UN resolution condeming Israel on Gaza

      UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) – The United States on Thursday vetoed a U.N. Security Council resolution put forward by Qatar on behalf of Arab states that would have condemned Israel’s two-week military incursion into Gaza.

      The events which are presently occurring are the will of Allah. There is a resolution for this, don’t forget. It is coming, Insh’Allah. The world is being setup for that one to come. We must Watch carefully and turn to Allah for support through this difficult time.

    4. Luqman July 13th, 2006 at 6:32 pm

      This is not meant to be an attack on Avicenna but I think we need to do more than watch.

    5. Muslim July 13th, 2006 at 6:45 pm

      Jazakallah MR for posting about something important to the ummah.

    6. Avicenna July 13th, 2006 at 8:01 pm

      To Luqman,

      BismillahirRahmanirRahim,

      Maybe I should Clarify: Watching means to see the bridge between the lesser signs and the greater signs. To recognize that we are in the Last Days, reaching up to the Last Days. To see and to reflect, if we are okay in our hearts with Allah. If not, we must correct those things, and improve our selves. Is the connection with our Lord compromised with the weight of our nafs and the world? If so, We must clean and rid our love for all those things transitory, and focus on closeness with Allah and those who are beloved to Allah.

      Aside from this, very little you can do – If you mean militarily. The time for that will come one day, but it is not now. If it is protests – Yes, We must protest to indiscriminate killing of Innocents everywhere – But in that we don’t agree with it. Standing and picketing with a sign – No, I don’t think we should do that. Time is better spent running to Allah and away from all things which may ruin our position in His eyes.

      Calling our local Congressman? Eh,…
      So we watch, and we are content with Allah’s will, we make dua for those suffering as if it is our own suffering(because it IS our own suffering), and Thank Allah for the favors He is bestowing on us. Getting Angry – Yes, we don’t agree with Oppression – but aside from throwing a fit – can’t do much. As Long as Allah sees that we are against this – because Holy Prophet(ASWS) is saying, “There will come a time near the end days, where you will see something wrong but you will not be able to stop it with your hand, nor will you be able to speak out against that thing(because of persecution).” So, we make it clear in our hearts that we are against it. It is the weakest of faith, but Holy Prophet(ASWS) is saying – It’s all you can do at that time, and it is enough for you. So we watch. And we wait – for that one to appear. While we’re waiting – We occupy our time, our precious time -as precious as the time of those children who are now dust under rubble(and now in the presence of Allah – They reached to the best place, and they’re clean Insh’Allah) – to prepare ourselves for our day, our death.

      Insh’Allah Rahman. This is what I meant. Sorry for being so cryptic. May Allah guide us to Him and His beloveds. Ameen.

      Was’Salaam

    7. Luqman July 13th, 2006 at 8:13 pm

      “If you mean militarily. The time for that will come one day, but it is not now.”

      I don’t understand. Why not?

    8. Muslim July 13th, 2006 at 8:16 pm

      The Prophet (saw) said: Soon the nations will call one another against you, just as people call one another to eat from a platter of food.”

      A man asked: “Will this be because we will be few in number, O Messenger of Allaah?” He (saws) replied: “No, you will be large in number, but you will be Ghuthaa’a like the froth scum on the surface of a body of water, and Allaah will remove from the
      hearts of your enemies their fear of you and shall place in your hearts Wahn.” Those present asked: “What is Wahn, O Messenger of Allaah?” He replied: “The love for this worldly life, and hatred of death.” [Saheeh hadeeth due to a multitude of routes of narration in the Sunan of Aboo Daawood (4297)]

    9. Muslim July 13th, 2006 at 8:27 pm

      Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. [2:190]

      Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not. [2:216]

      And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: “Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!” [4:75]

    10. Ahsan July 13th, 2006 at 8:29 pm

      AA,

      so what can we do about this, other than just watch?

    11. Avicenna July 13th, 2006 at 8:46 pm

      “I don’t understand. Why not?”

      BismillahhirRahmanirRahim,

      The only way to go to war militarily is with a leader, an Emir. Only the Khalifah can declare military war. No one hiding in a cave can do so. And we cannot either. When the Khalifa comes, we follow him.

      So the time for the lesser struggle will come soon, but it’s not now. Now and everyday, is the time for the greater struggle – against our selves and our egos. Our intention each and every one of our actions must be for Allah. The worst shirk is the one we may unknowingly commit everyday – putting our ego, associating the ego with Allah. This is why it is the greater struggle according to the most beloved one in Divine Presence(you may already know the hadith)-as it is not easy. So, we work Insh’Allah to be clean in our lives. If we die with that struggle – we are more beloved to Allah than fighting the lesser struggle. It is true. When the time to fight with the outer enemy comes you will see us at the front lines. The time to fight the inner enemy is now, and is much more difficult and much more fruitful when we are victorious. Insh’Allah what I say is for me and for you. If you find it beneficial, take it. If you don’t like anything, leave it. I’ll take it back with me.

      May Allah make us heedful and make us to love what He loves and hate what He hates, and make us beloved ones to Him. Ameen. For the sake of our Prophet(ASWS), His most Beloved, Peace and Blessings on the Holy Prophet(ASWS) and his family and companions.

    12. Luqman July 13th, 2006 at 9:00 pm

      It was my impression that defensive jihad requires no leader. For example, if someone tries to kill me or my family, I will not look for a leader before I fight him. Again, I’m not trying to be disrespectful.

    13. Ahmed July 13th, 2006 at 10:15 pm

      I agree with Luqman. If a bunch of bloodthirsty Jews invaded my town and Allah gave me the courage I would fight back.

    14. Avicenna July 13th, 2006 at 10:59 pm

      BismillahirRahmanirRahim,

      Yes, you are right in that. Defending your property and those under your charge – which includes those you support. However, if you look closely at my words, you’ll see that’s not what my point was.

      If you want to find justification to fight, then I’m sure you will find it. Using that as a blanket statement – the defense issue, is what tosay’s terrorists or those making suicide bombings all seem to feel justified in doing: freely interpreting the Qur’an according to whatever their nafs or ego wants to believe is right, rather than what truly is.

      We’ve entered the age where you will find Islam according to what He, She wants in lieu of what Allah wants. The second Jahilliya as the Prophet(ASWS) referred to it as. Where the more educated the people will be, the more you’ll find them to be arrogant and stubborn. What we are finding now. Visit the communities here in the U.S or just about anywhere – Or just line up any ten muslims at the next ISNA, or ICNA and ask them what they “feel” is right on X topic and you’ll definitely find ten different answers, each with conviction he or she is correct in their thinking. This is a big topic, so I won’t try to talk about it here – but it comes down to following the rightly guided ones in place of yourself.

      Me, I know that I don’t know any better, so I follow a Sheykh. I follow Tariqat. I am confident in him because he is getting his knowledge from his sheykh, and he is also so saying he doesn’t know any better without his guide. His Sheykh? He is saying the same. All the way back to the Holy Prophet(ASWS). And they are not asking any worldly fee. Hmmm.

      So, I understand you are not trying to be disrespectful. But I must stop here, and say to you, If you are truly interested in doing what is best loved by Allah in your situation – think about what you are saying, and ask support from Allah to guide you to what is best for you and to give the wisdom to you, to make the right choices, saying, “Ya Rabbi, I’m not knowing any better, show me what to do”. If you truly want to know what to do next, keep asking. You WILL get the answer. I assure you. But the key is sincerity, and humility before your lord. Insh’Allah Rahman. May He give us contentment with His plan for us. Ameen. For the sake of his Best Servant – Muhammad(ASWS).

    15. Muslim July 14th, 2006 at 10:27 am

      Oh, a Sufi.

    16. mujahideenryder July 14th, 2006 at 10:37 am

      The war has begun…with a leader or without a leader, people are going to die on both sides.

      Allah knows best.

    17. Avicenna July 14th, 2006 at 4:12 pm

      To ‘Muslim’

      Alhamdulillah. In today’s time – To the non-muslim powers, (and many modern muslims)’Shariah’ is the dirtiest word in religion today. The only one who doesn’t like to hear that word is one who is not comfortable with the law of Allah. The ones who are not interested in going clean from this world, or feel superior, arrogantly will also hate words like – “tasawwuf” and “tazkiyah” and “sufism”. Mash’Allah. The longer you look down on someone with an attitude of pride, the longer it is the enemies of Islam will have their way with today’s “muslims”, as is happening today. Who are the enemies of Islam? Yahudis? Maybe. Biggest enemy of Islam may be with you all through out your day. Shaytan and the Dirty Nafs/Ego. Deny the existence of them, and for all your external zeal, you’ll be fighting blind. So, I say, Mash’Allah to you, and I don’t say, “Oh, a Wahhabi” – though, it is easy to do so.

      To MR,

      Which of these countries are representing Islam? They said no to Khilafat and Yes to democracy. Since the fall of the Khilafah, the Ottoman Khilafa, where have muslims shown strength in the world? They have largely been content being the slaves of petrol dollars, growing fat like cows out to pasture. War may have begun, yes. Though it is appealing and attractive to run quickly and say, “We must die fighting!” – But remember, Prophet(ASWS) is saying, in Akhiraz-Zaman – There will be a huge war, and 5 out of 6 people will die. So many have to die, in order for Prophet’s words to come true(though they are already true) – It is one of his miracles surely. So, it begins, and so it must happen. We Make Dua and qiyam for them, which, Alhamdulillah is the best thing we can do for them. The muslims will be unable to defeat their enemies now, no matter how hard they fight – because of the times, because of the corruption that they have adopted as their way of life today. Selfishly, We want to run and fight when we see our neighbor dying or this child dying or that one dying. Where was this strength when Islam was dying slowly through out this world, when the position of Allah in our heart was replaced by the love for this world, and our hearts were dying. Dead hearts fighting representing Islam today? No. They can never win. We are representing the world, our selfish desires, many are representing Shaytan. To watch this should be a BIG wake up call for ourselves, to wake up and run from the confusion of Shaytan and to bolster ourselves. This is no debate, and I won’t have one nor will I argue about anything with anyone. Prophet(ASWS) is telling us that when the muslims are being oppressed in the Ahir-Az-Zaman(Last Days), and it looks like there is no way out, – Run. Run away from the cities, and turn your hearts toward Allah, and wait for Mahdi(AS) to appear. Our strength as muslims, as servants, even as an army, depends on this. Insh’Allah Rahman, maybe we’ll listen to our Prophet(ASWS). That’s all, Insh’Allah.

      Salaam wa Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatahu

    18. Muslim July 14th, 2006 at 5:47 pm

      I said nothing bad or disdainful about Sufis. I was just pointing it out.

    19. Mujahideen Ryder July 14th, 2006 at 6:03 pm

      i love sufis.

    20. Muslim July 14th, 2006 at 6:18 pm

      So do I.

    21. Samir July 14th, 2006 at 6:57 pm

      Assalam Alaikum,

      Most of my replies here are a response to “Avicenna”:

      You said: “If you mean militarily. The time for that will come one day, but it is not now.”

      Ya Akhi, today is the best time for Jihad. There are so many opportunities to gain a gigantic amount of ajr and become shaheed (inshAllah). Fix your intentions fe Sabeelillah and march whether you are light or heavy:

      Zayd ibn Aslam, from his father, that the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu `alayhe wassallam) said: “Jihad will remain fresh and green as long as raindrops fall from the sky. And there will come upon the people a time when Qur’an reciters from among them will say: “This is not the time of Jihad.” So whoever comes to that time, then it is the best time for Jihad.” They said: “O Messenger of Allah, would someone really say that?” He said: “Yes, the one whom Allah has cursed, and the angels and all of mankind.” [Narrated by Ibn Zamneen in Usoolus-Sunnah Mursalan, and narrated by Ibn `Asaakir Marfoo`an from Anas (radiyallaahu `anhu).]

      Many people in the Ummah (especially in this part of the world) are capable to do Jihad but they will refuse to do it because of ‘wahn’. Hence the hadith:
      The Prophet (saw) said: Soon the nations will call one another against you, just as people call one another to eat from a platter of food.” A man asked: “Will this be because we will be few in number, O Messenger of Allaah?” He (saws) replied: “No, you will be large in number, but you will be Ghuthaa’a like the froth scum on the surface of a body of water, and Allaah will remove from the hearts of your enemies their fear of you and shall place in your hearts Wahn.” Those present asked: “What is Wahn, O Messenger of Allaah?” He replied: “The love for this worldly life, and hatred of death.” [Saheeh hadeeth due to a multitude of routes of narration in the Sunan of Aboo Daawood (4297)]

      To make it clear, to not have wahn is to include Jihad fe Sabeelillah as a vital part to the Deen. Practicing it, preparing for it, studying it, loving it and so on must be done. I say this because of the following hadith:

      Narrated Abdullah ibn Umar: I heard the Apostle of Allah, (sallallaahu `alayhi wa-sallam) say: “When you enter into the in a transaction, hold the tails of cows, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad, Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original Deen (i.e., True Islam).” (Sunan Abu Dawud: Book 23, Number 3455)

      Let’s quickly analyze this hadith. When the majority of the Ummah is busy in businesses, agriculture, and give up practicing Jihad (which include making pathetic excuses for not doing so), then Allah will have disgrace prevail in the Ummah. We will be humiliated by whatever means Allah wills. If you look around today, we are being massacred in huge numbers by al kuffar. We have given up Jihad and ran after the life of this world. Some of the sincere Muslims will include some Deeni aspects to running after this life such as fulfilling the 5 pillars and other nafl acts. Some will join an Islamic group to do da’wah once in a while or to gain ‘ilm. But what solves the problem? If the Ummah goes back to Jihad fe Sabeelillah, Allah will alleviate this humiliation we are currently going through.
      You said: “The only way to go to war militarily is with a leader, an Emir. Only the Khalifah can declare military war. No one hiding in a cave can do so. And we cannot either. When the Khalifa comes, we follow him.”
      The war that most Muslims are doing today is Jihad ad Dafe’ (Defensive Jihad) as this is a fard on every Muslim living in that vicinity. We will talk a little more in detail after I quickly point out what can make Jihad ad dafe’ fard al ‘ayn on the entire Ummah:

      The ‘Ulema unanimously agree that Jihad ad dafe’ becomes fard al ‘ayn in any of the following conditions:
      1) If the Kuffar invade a Muslim land & those Muslims aren’t able to repel those enemies.
      2) If the rows meet in battle and they begin to approach each other.
      3) If the Imam calls a person or a people to march forward then they must march.
      4) If the Kuffar capture and imprison a group of Muslims.

      Since we don’t have a Khalifah today, that doesn’t mean we cannot do Jihad or that Jihad cannot be fard al ‘ayn. Jihad becomes fard al ‘ayn on the entire Ummah if the Muslims in the invaded land are not able to repel the enemies and the neighboring Muslims aren’t able to do so as well. Shaykh Al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah said, “About the Defensive Jihad, which is repelling an aggressor, is the most tasking type of jihad. As agreed upon by everyone, it is obligatory to protect the religion and what is sacred. The first obligation after Iman is the repulsion of the enemy aggressor who assaults the religion and the worldly affairs. There are no conditional requirements such as supplies or transport, rather he is fought with all immediate capability. The ‘Ulema, our peers and others have spoken about this.” Further, Ibn Taymiyyah remarked: “If the enemy enters a Muslim land, there is no doubt that it is obligatory for the closest and then the next closest to repel him, because the Muslim lands are like one land. It is obligatory to march to the territory even without the permission of parents or creditor, and narrations reported by Ahmad are clear on this.” (Al Fatawa al Kubra 4/608)

      Clearly, if we rule according to any of those four options, Jihad becomes fard al ‘ayn. Let’s look at what the four Madhaahab say on Jihad becoming fard al ‘ayn:

      Hanafi Fiqh:
      Ibn Aabidin said: “Jihad becomes Fard ‘Ayn if the enemy attacks one of the borders of the Muslims, and it becomes Fard ‘Ayn upon those close by. For those who are far away, it is Fard Kifaya, if their assistance is not required. If they are needed, perhaps because those nearby the attack cannot resist the enemy, or are indolent and do not fight jihad, then it becomes Fard ‘Ayn upon those behind them, like the obligation to pray and fast. There is no room for them to leave it. If they too are unable, then it becomes Fard ‘Ayn upon those behind them, and so on in the same manner until the jihad becomes Fard ‘Ayn upon the whole Ummah of Islam from the East to the West” (Hashiyat Ibn Aabidin 3/238). And the following have similar Fatawa: Al Kassani, Ibn Najim and Ibn Hammam.

      Maliki Fiqh:
      In Hashiyat ad Dussuqi it is stated: Jihad becomes Fard ‘Ayn upon a surprise attack
      by the enemy. Dussuqi said: “Wherever this happens, jihad immediately becomes Fard ‘Ayn upon everybody, even women, slaves and children, and they march out even if their guardians, husbands and creditors forbid them to.” (Hashiyat ad Dussuqi 2/174)

      Shaffi’i Fiqh:
      In the Nihayat al Mahtaj by Ramli: “If they approach one of our lands and the
      distance between them and us becomes less than the distance permitting the shortening of prayers, then the people of that territory must defend it and it becomes Fard ‘Ayn even upon the people for whom there is usually no jihad; the poor, the children, the slaves, the debtor and the women.” (Nihayat al Mahtaj 8/58)

      Hanbali Fiqh
      In Al Mughni by Ibn al Qudaamah, he says: “Jihad becomes Fard ‘Ayn in three situations:
      1) If the two sides meet in battle and they approach each other.
      2) If the Kuffar enter a land, jihad becomes Fard ‘Ayn upon its people.
      3) If the Imam calls a people to march forward it is obligatory upon them to
      march forward.” (Al Mughni 8/354)
      Now in regards to Jihad at Talab, there is difference of opinion on whether or not a khalifah has to be there. But yes, generally speaking, the Muslims who do Jihad must appoint an Ameer so that there is no major discord or disunity of any sort.

      I strongly recommend you to read, “In Defense of Muslim lands” by Shaykh ‘Abdullah Yusuf ‘Azzam and “Mashari al Ashwaq ila Masari al Ushaaq” by Shaykh ibn Nuhaas.
      You said: “So the time for the lesser struggle will come soon, but it’s not now. Now and everyday, is the time for the greater struggle – against our selves and our egos.”

      I hope you did not derive this from the hadith, “We have returned from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad.” If so, know that this hadith has been fabricated and is not even a hadith. Many Shuyookh have refuted this hadith in both its matn and isnad. Shaykh Ibn Taymiyyah wrote a tract on the refutation of this hadith. In regards to the refutation of the isnad of the hadith, I can provide you a lengthy tract on that by various Muhaditheen from both classical and contemporary periods. In terms of matn, we see that Allah says in Surah an Nisa (ayat 95 & 96):

      Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward. Ranks specially bestowed by Him, and Forgiveness and Mercy. For Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. (4: 95-96)

      There is no equality between those who sit back (even if they do it for da’wah, being a good Muslim etc.) and those who fight for the cause of Allah. It can be broken down to simple elements. The ones who fight fe Sabeelillah see death around them. They don’t live a comfortable life with the luxuries most Muslims have today. Death is constantly poking them which gives them a great amount of Taqwa. Further they do dhikr and remember Allah. They pray Salat and many of them even pray tahajjud. For the one who stays back, however amount of dhikr this person makes, or how many raka’at he has done, his deeds are not equal to the deeds of a Mujahid. For example:

      Imran bin Haseen narrated: The Messenger of Allah said: “Standing in the ranks of the army in the battlefield is better to Allah than the worship of sixty years”. (Al Hakim (authentic according to al Bukhari rules and agreed by al Thahabi))

      There are many ahadith that are exactly like this but put more emphasis on the fact that the Salah of the Mujahid is greater in quantity than the Salah of the one who stays back.

      Narrated Abu Huraira: A man came to Allah’s Apostle and said, “Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward).” He replied, “I do not find such a deed.” Then he added, “Can you, while the Muslim fighter is in the battle-field, enter your mosque to perform prayers without cease and fast and never break your fast?” The man said, “But who can do that?” Abu Huraira added, “The Mujahid (i.e. Muslim fighter) is rewarded even for the footsteps of his horse while it wanders bout (for grazing) tied in a long rope.” (Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 52, Number 44)

      SubhanAllah, how far do the deeds of the Mujahid go? Can anyone stay in Salah and Siyaam without breaking it until the Mujahid comes back from Jihad? Nobody can do that. If the Mujahid is out for a few months, that person would die due to no food, drink, and sleep within one week.

      You said: “The time to fight the inner enemy is now, and is much more difficult and much more fruitful when we are victorious. Insh’Allah what I say is for me and for you. If you find it beneficial, take it. If you don’t like anything, leave it. I’ll take it back with me.”

      Keep in mind, The Prophet (s) already said that there is no deed in equivalence to fighting fe Sabeelillah:

      Abu Hurairah narrates that the Messenger of Allah was asked about a deed equal in reward to jihad. He replied, “You cant do it” They asked again and then a third time, and every time the Messenger of Allah says, “You cant do it” Then he said, “The equivalent of the mujahid is the one who fasts and prays continuously without resting until the mujahid comes back!” (Muslim)
      This is almost the same as the one I quoted before.

      Yes, revival of a Sunnah during a fitna is a great deed as the Prophet (s) said. But this revival never ends. The revival of the heart never ends. Meaning, both before and after a person does Jihad fe Sabeelillah, that inner struggle you keep referring to will never end until death. The best form of testing that inner struggle (or Iman) is Jihad fe Sabeelillah undoubtedly. You must remember Allah much, death is constantly surrounding you, which leads to your actions of trying to do as much good deeds as possible.
      You said: “If you want to find justification to fight, then I’m sure you will find it. Using that as a blanket statement – the defense issue, is what tosay’s terrorists or those making suicide bombings all seem to feel justified in doing: freely interpreting the Qur’an according to whatever their nafs or ego wants to believe is right, rather than what truly is.”

      May Allah forgive you for your ignorance and arrogance over the Mujahideen. Have you ever spoken to one of these Mujahideen and asked them what their proof is? Do you personally know anyone like that? Do you know if they smelt like musk when they blew up? Most people in this part of the world don’t. So how can you dare think that these people are terrorists that desire suicide? This is what the West wants you to say. They love for you to speak out against your brothers that sacrifice everything fe Sabeelillah (and not fe Sabeelishaytan or anything else). I’m sure you have spoken to a lot of people on this issue of Martyrdom Bombing, but not those people who are on the front lines. It is better for you to keep quiet on an issue you don’t have much knowledge on than to speak freely as the tongue loves to attract attention and fling unnecessary fitna. If you want to study this subject, then one source is the new version of Shaykh ‘Abdullah Yusuf ‘Azzam’s book, “In Defense of Muslim Lands.” There are a few Appendixes in the back and one of them discusses this issue in detail by the Mujahideen from Sheeshan.
      You said: “Me, I know that I don’t know any better, so I follow a Sheykh. I follow Tariqat. I am confident in him because he is getting his knowledge from his sheykh, and he is also so saying he doesn’t know any better without his guide. His Sheykh? He is saying the same. All the way back to the Holy Prophet(ASWS). And they are not asking any worldly fee. Hmmm.”

      Do remember that these Shuyookh are not infallible. If you believe that they are never wrong, then that can be considered shirk. Do not forget the stern warning of Rasoolullah (s) when he said:

      Narrated by Abu Huraira: Allah’s Messenger said: “Whosoever dies without participating in an expedition (Jihad) nor having the intention to do so, dies on a branch of hypocrisy.” (Muslim)

      May Allah grant us Shahada in His path. Ameen.

      Samir

    22. Avicenna July 14th, 2006 at 10:25 pm

      BismillahirRahmanirRahim,

      Mash’Allah, so many proofs and refutations. Hmmm. Where can I begin. You may want to reconsider, MR, of retracting your apology for the original post regarding the link binding the salafi/wahhabi’s and the suicide bombers…that post may well stand the test of time…Alhamdulillah.

      Well, since your post has all the underpinnings of a debate in gestation, and since I’m not here for a debate or arguementation, as it would be foolish and completely counterproductive to our purpose as muslims to do so (Everywhere you look, there is an ego-centric debate – “I know”, “you know”, and so on – You’re not doing yourself any favors my friend) and since you are obviously a salafi and wahhabbi, it is not likely you will believe anything I say, especially as this is a text forum and not a learning forum, devoid of a voice to be heard or a face to look at, I will respond to a degree, and decline to engage further. I’m not here to convince you of anything or sell anything. You’d be wise however, to take a look at where you are getting your knowledge from. But, I think I will start with this nugget you dispensed, which I’ve reproduced below – You said, :

      “May Allah forgive you for your ignorance and arrogance over the Mujahideen. Have you ever spoken to one of these Mujahideen and asked them what their proof is? Do you personally know anyone like that? Do you know if they smelt like musk when they blew up? Most people in this part of the world don’t. So how can you dare think that these people are terrorists that desire suicide? This is what the West wants you to say. They love for you to speak out against your brothers that sacrifice everything fe Sabeelillah (and not fe Sabeelishaytan or anything else). I’m sure you have spoken to a lot of people on this issue of Martyrdom Bombing, but not those people who are on the front lines. It is better for you to keep quiet on an issue you don’t have much knowledge on than to speak freely as the tongue loves to attract attention and fling unnecessary fitna.”

      This, the first part, is outrageously far from what is true. I am not arrogant with the mujahideen nor do I thumb my nose at them, as you suggest – *Precludes being a muslim – yes, very close to pronouncing takfeer on me, I know*. But, between your definition of what makes a mujahideen with your many interpretations from the ‘scholars’ you have listed, and the definition of our way, – there is a large discrepancy. If you are here saying what I think you’re saying, making a case for suicide bombing, then you will lose. Recruiting youth to strap some explosive and enter a mall or a bus depot, by enticing them with the glory of death for Allah, and giving untold amounts of proofs – these are the snake-oil salesman tactics of fear mongerers the world over, and you’ll see these strategem within Governments and zealot groups everywhere. Not the way of our beloved Prophet(ASWS). So hungry to die, and take others with you, whether they are children or innocents, combatants or non-combatants, are we? So, What are you waiting for? Instead of sitting there typing replies to my ‘weak-faithed’ rhetoric, why not mobilize yourself to the area in question, post haste? Ahh. This is the problem – where Holy Prophet(ASWS) is saying – The biggest fear I have for my Ummah during the Ahir-uz-Zaman is that they will each interpret the Qur’an according to their own understanding – Tirmidhi Shareef.

      As for the hadith being fabricated, which I’ve mentioned about the struggle against your self/nafs – I don’t know what to say except that you are confused and it is becoming increasingly convenient for your ‘groups’ to disregard or discredit ahadith, verses, when they don’t fuel your agenda.

      Lastly- Specifically the last few lines – You’d do well to take your own advice. The knowledge you’ve “gained”, poring over books, refutations, footnotes, proofs, abrogations and the such come from a very dubious source. Careful. Your books may suffer from a typo – enduring from cover to cover. Books not the Qur’an(the original arabic Qur’an, not whatever translation is hot at B&N) are fallibility incorporated – don’t think so? – Read the bible.

      I do feel, it’s not coincidence that you, being such a gung-ho wahhabi, are here with as many transparent flaws as you have words, in the methodology which you approach Islam and the origin of your predecessors – as I have a thing or two to contribute on the Wahhabi ideology and how it relates to the world and the ummah today – taken from a decisively relevant sohbet from our Sheykh’s Wakil – Lukman Hoca. I’ll be posting this on my blog soon, transcribed from its Audio source – you are welcome to look at it. If you can’t wait and are eager to listen to the original, it can be found and downloaded in mp3 format at “Mind, Body, and Soul”

      Insh’Allah Rahman.

      May Allah guide you and forgive me, dear Samir. For the sake of His most beloved creation, our Holy Prophet(ASWS) and the Beloveds of Allah.

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