The Post Ramadan Syndrome

Preview to the movie: Me and my friends wanted to make a movie for our MSA Eid banquet, but we procrastinated and we filmed it last minute in about 3 hours. So the quality is not that good and it may not be as funny, but enjoy inshaAllah!

Duration: ~ 22 min.

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65 Responses for "The Post Ramadan Syndrome"

  1. Lam Saiful Din October 31st, 2006 at 12:20 pm | [ Quote ]

    Awesome stuff bro:)

  2. Nihal Khan October 31st, 2006 at 3:03 pm | [ Quote ]

    “I can’t take this Ahlul Bid’ah!”

    priceless….

  3. cricketgal October 31st, 2006 at 7:03 pm | [ Quote ]

    ahaha some of that was blatantly true!

    and that bro who kept smiling..lol..cracked me up..
    and thats a gansgster british accent if i may say so!!!..lol..

    aww man the way the bro started doing miswak/dhikr/dua while driving was tooo classic too..i’ve seen my own bro do that once!! hahahaha

  4. cricketgal October 31st, 2006 at 7:18 pm | [ Quote ]

    aaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha *FREE PALESTINE* LOL…

  5. Ibraheem October 31st, 2006 at 8:32 pm | [ Quote ]

    I nominate this film for an emmy or whatever that award is called…

  6. Alex October 31st, 2006 at 11:19 pm | [ Quote ]

    lol @ driving while using a siwak AND dhikr beads AND making dua

  7. mohammad November 1st, 2006 at 1:29 am | [ Quote ]

    LOOOL @ making dua while driving hahaha

  8. Saimah November 1st, 2006 at 1:50 am | [ Quote ]

    Salaam…

    Awesomeness…. The driving scene was the funniest… and the “after ramadan” scene where u and that kid were arguing about following Madhabs…. right before u got up to leave ur last comment was hilirious….

    *thumps up*

  9. lol November 1st, 2006 at 4:31 am | [ Quote ]

    i nominate Adam Osman for best supporting actor

  10. Abdur-Rehman November 1st, 2006 at 12:07 pm | [ Quote ]

    Assalamu ‘alaikum,

    once again, i will say what i said to amir, the video itself has a good message, but in islam brothers and sisters are not allowed to make videos together, and this is contrary to what islaam teaches us about gender relations, once again the message was good, but the tactics used such as showing sisters fighting, and brothers and issters in a video together are unacceptable,

    please give me proof if otherwise…

    Wassalam,

    Abdur-rehman

  11. aunty November 1st, 2006 at 1:40 pm | [ Quote ]

    Abdur-Rehman, go take a walk. we live in america, not taliban land…boys & girls mix everyday on campus, classrooms and even at all the major conventions. they just have to have hayaa and know what they are doing…if I see you watch a bollywood or hollywood movie again, I will yell at you.

  12. henna November 1st, 2006 at 2:12 pm | [ Quote ]

    hmmmm, i cant seem to watch it properly~ the speech is all wierd? :|

  13. Talibah al ilm November 1st, 2006 at 2:42 pm | [ Quote ]

    Assalaamualaikum wa rahmatullah…

    aunty on November 1, 2006 at 1:40 pm said:

    Abdur-Rehman, go take a walk. we live in america, not taliban land…boys & girls mix everyday on campus, classrooms and even at all the major conventions. they just have to have hayaa and know what they are doing…if I see you watch a bollywood or hollywood movie again, I will yell at you.

    Maan…aunty, you go and take a walk. Don’t tell me that it’s unavoidable to mix up.
    That’s so typical American..you guys sometimes get on my nerves…

  14. Hani November 1st, 2006 at 4:29 pm | [ Quote ]

    DAMN! That was Awesome! Very Funny! But Still informative!
    Great Job!

  15. me November 1st, 2006 at 4:34 pm | [ Quote ]

    @ aunty, I don’t think a green card excuses you from the obligations of Shari’ah. Ironically the subjects in this video seem to display symptoms of P.R.S (Post Ramadan Syndrome), most notably a breakdown in inter gender relations, exhibited by the free mixing.

  16. me November 1st, 2006 at 4:37 pm | [ Quote ]

    @ aunty, I don’t think a green card excuses you from the obligations of Shari’ah. Ironically the subjects in this video seem to display symptoms of P.R.S (Post Ramadan Syndrome), most notably a breakdown in inter gender relations, exhibited by the free mixing!

  17. theone November 1st, 2006 at 4:40 pm | [ Quote ]

    @ aunty, I don’t think a green card excuses you from the obligations of Shari’ah. Ironically the subjects in this video seem to display symptoms of P.R.S (Post Ramadan Syndrome), most notably a breakdown in inter gender relations, exhibited by the free mixing.

  18. aunty November 1st, 2006 at 5:55 pm | [ Quote ]

    theone - I don’t have a green card…

  19. thejellymill November 1st, 2006 at 7:14 pm | [ Quote ]

    Good points but could the sister’s clothes BE any tighter?? :P

  20. Haris November 1st, 2006 at 7:52 pm | [ Quote ]

    Good movie Amir! Nice punch Adam!

  21. Haris November 1st, 2006 at 7:52 pm | [ Quote ]

    and to the guys who want to establish shariah at Stony Brook…shut up!

  22. Susu November 1st, 2006 at 8:09 pm | [ Quote ]

    Assalamu Alikum,

    I think the sisters clothing was really a misinterpretation of the muslimah’s here in Canada, at the least on of the sisters should have been wearing lose clothing so as to show the different types of hijab girls wear…And of coarse, Allah knows best.

    Masha’Allah, over all the short video was great, Keep up the good work!

    Wassalamu Alikum wr wb

  23. teri November 1st, 2006 at 8:16 pm | [ Quote ]

    it was interesting to see, for sure. i am actually a muslim convert from a jewish background. it is interesting to see the attitudes displayed and the attitudes given from people’s comments. i still mix with the other gender, but i keep my intentions pure, and so do they. this year was my first ramadan and i must say, you caught the post-ramadan syndrome perfectly!!

  24. Mujahideen Ryder November 2nd, 2006 at 12:05 am | [ Quote ]

    Regrading Free Mixing:

    There was free mixing, but there are two types, halal free mixing with pure intentions that aren’t from shaytan, and the haram free mixing with intentions from shaytan.

    In classrooms, there are both men and women, so the movie was about a class (RMD 110) at SBU. So obviously there will be both genders. Also, the professor in the movie clearly yelled at the ‘thug’ character to go to the brother’s area, showing there is a separation between genders.

    Regarding the attire of the sisters:

    I have no control of what the sisters wear.

    If you don’t like the movie, then you don’t have to watch it. It’s that simple.

  25. Shawn Mohd Imtiaz November 2nd, 2006 at 2:05 am | [ Quote ]

    awsome video

  26. Junaid From The Bronx November 2nd, 2006 at 9:40 am | [ Quote ]

    I agree with MR - it is that simple.

  27. random sister November 2nd, 2006 at 9:59 am | [ Quote ]

    I will repeat what Haris says….”and to the guys who want to establish shariah at Stony Brook…shut up!” The video was great…I love it, classic & excellent work from all the bros and sisters in the movie.

  28. thejellymill November 2nd, 2006 at 7:34 pm | [ Quote ]

    No one except that one guy with the “separate the sexes!” comment said they disliked the movie. I think it was alright and it made good points. All I said was something about the immodest clothing of the sisters in a “Muslim film”, also I didn’t mean to seem like I’m picking on just them. Many hijabis these days seem to think that clothing resembling catwoman’s catsuit are okay to wear with hijab just because it “covers” everything when in fact it looks like a second skin.

    btw the argument about how this video is bad because of mixing was lame. Should we all wear blinders? no. We live in the real world, mixing to some extent is INEVITABLE. Just dress and act with haaya (involves proper hijab–see above).

  29. Anon November 2nd, 2006 at 9:06 pm | [ Quote ]

    Hey! Back off there were three sisters in the film and not all of them wear wearing really tight clothing!

    Oh and stop picking on one another! AR- look at your own family? Wow that’s a sweet comment to make.

    And assume the best about how the characters intermixed. You don’t know what they did.

  30. bushra November 2nd, 2006 at 9:14 pm | [ Quote ]

    for something you guys did in three hours it was pretty good

  31. not important November 3rd, 2006 at 10:53 am | [ Quote ]

    Don’t hate on AR and the others who let thier feelings be known. You guys/gals have been born and raised in America and thus see gender relations everyday in a not so pleasant manner, as opposed to those of our motherlands where they may sometimes be too strict and actually unislamicly so becuase of the infestation of culutural beliefs and norms. Just as all of you are voicing your opinions, remember that brothers like AR and Talib are also American are just exibiting their free speech and have just as much right to comment on the film as you do.
    There was actually one very disgusting comment which I am requesting MR to remove, the one made by “MR fan #2″. This is not a place for personal attacks. THat’s just sad, whoever it was.
    If you have opinions, please be polite, AR was.

  32. not important November 3rd, 2006 at 11:52 am | [ Quote ]

    oh yeah, upload it to youtube

  33. MSA brother November 3rd, 2006 at 12:08 pm | [ Quote ]

    Amir, you should remove that comment made by MR Fan#2. Personal attacks to AR are unislamic. AR must be real sad now.

  34. Muslimah November 3rd, 2006 at 1:51 pm | [ Quote ]

    I think the video was excellent. You made real good points that im sure all of us are struggling with. As far as gender relations go there are some which are obviously unavoidable. Im sure all of us who live in the west do infact sit in class with the opposite sex to gain education. If SBU Msa is trying to make an encouraging point using the same scenario while in a clean way by ’seperating sexes’ i dont see anything wrong with it. Everything in the movie was clear cut.

    As far as the sisters clothings go …yea that was a misinterpretation of a Muslim woman but i guess the brothers really cant enforce such an issue for it is a real sensitive topic for a woman.

  35. jellymill November 3rd, 2006 at 3:45 pm | [ Quote ]

    Muslimah, I agree with you but I also have this to say: it’s a sensitive topic for brothers too. They have to look at it.

    I’m sure this’ll open up a whole can of worms where ppl are able to say ‘they shouldnt be looking anyway’. Yea there are many reasons for hijab and not observing it properly is a negative thing for more ppl or parties than just the individual woman.

  36. not important November 3rd, 2006 at 4:37 pm | [ Quote ]

    let’s not all jump on the females now, brother’s also need to observe some level of hijab-no not walk around with a scarf on thier heads, but wear modest clothing just like sisters should.
    I know some brothers that have become fond of muscle tees and tight pants that accentuate, as Borat says, their ” nice physiques”. Others like to wear shorts that don’t meet the aura requirement, if you know what I mean. Brothers are also encouraged to wear clothing that properly covers thier aura and ensures modesty.

    If you think about it, the “gangsta” way of dressing isn’t so bad since the brothers like to wear very loose clothing that hides thier figure. But you must remember one thing, when wearing those baggy jeans make sure they are worn above the buttocks and not below, and don’t let them drag under your sneakers, that’s dirty and then you’ll have uncles calling you “street sweeper”.

  37. thejellymill November 3rd, 2006 at 6:31 pm | [ Quote ]

    Don’t forget the part where brothers shouldnt have clothing hanging below their ankles..I guess dressing “gangsta” would not be all that great after all…

  38. thejellymill November 3rd, 2006 at 6:32 pm | [ Quote ]

    FYI I’m a sister criticizing the sisters…in case anybody got that confused.

  39. Muslimah November 3rd, 2006 at 8:47 pm | [ Quote ]

    jellymill on November 3, 2006 at 3:45 pm said:

    Muslimah, I agree with you but I also have this to say: it’s a sensitive topic for brothers too. They have to look at it.

    I’m sure this’ll open up a whole can of worms where ppl are able to say ‘they shouldnt be looking anyway’. Yea there are many reasons for hijab and not observing it properly is a negative thing for more ppl or parties than just the individual woman.

    yeah i totally agree. Its very uncomfortable for a sister who properly practices hijab to be in the company of those whom dont. Its actually very embarrassing and it makes another sister shy. But What i was getting at was that the brothers who prepared this short film really cant voice their opinions on the sisters clothings. It would be more suitable for another sister to tell them the proper dress code. Coming from a brother who just goes to school with you, and is later on critizing your clothes just wouldnt work out well in my opinion

  40. theone November 4th, 2006 at 5:24 am | [ Quote ]

    2 points.

    1. How is making an Unnesessary video “unavoidable”?
    2. The Sahaba (R.A.) had the best of intentions, yet they studied from Hadhrat Aisha (R.A) from behind a screen!

    look i know this is the 21st centuary and that sometimes intermingling is unavoidable. Yet the point is the Brothers(s)/Sisters(s) went out of there way to make an Unnesessary video. The excuse about good intetntions is laughable. Dont make excuses for your nafs. I am probably the the most flawed person visting this site, but the point im trying to make is that i wouldn’t make lame excuses for something i did that was wrong.

  41. Ahmad November 4th, 2006 at 5:13 pm | [ Quote ]

    I don’t understand why the sisters with the improper attire had to filmed. Weren’t there any other sisters available? MR, you say that if I don’t like the movie then I don’t have to watch it. How was I supposed to know that there would be women improperly dressed before I watched this movie? That’s why I didn’t watch the whole thing. When I saw a sister wearing something that was questionable then I turned it off, but that doesn’t mean I don’t have a right to voice my opinion on this. You posted the ummah films video, “That’s not hijab”. In that video brother Ali clearly describes how wearing tight clothing and covering your hair is not hijab. I mean I don’t get it. How can you film women like that and show it on here for everyone to see? Forgive me if I sound harsh, but I have to speak the truth even if it is bitter. It’s not right to film women like that if you know they are wearing something that is improper. If you cannot find a muslimah wearing proper attire then don’t film any sisters, it’s that simple. I wonder what Shaykh Hamza and Imam Zaid would say about this. Maybe you could ask them?

  42. Mujahideen Ryder November 4th, 2006 at 5:20 pm | [ Quote ]

    Ahmad on November 4, 2006 at 5:13 pm said:

    I don’t understand why the sisters with the improper attire had to filmed. Weren’t there any other sisters available? MR, you say that if I don’t like the movie then I don’t have to watch it. How was I supposed to know that there would be women improperly dressed before I watched this movie? That’s why I didn’t watch the whole thing. When I saw a sister wearing something that was questionable then I turned it off, but that doesn’t mean I don’t have a right to voice my opinion on this. You posted the ummah films video, “That’s not hijab”. In that video brother Ali clearly describes how wearing tight clothing and covering your hair is not hijab. I mean I don’t get it. How can you film women like that and show it on here for everyone to see? Forgive me if I sound harsh, but I have to speak the truth even if it is bitter. It’s not right to film women like that if you know they are wearing something that is improper. If you cannot find a muslimah wearing proper attire then don’t film any sisters, it’s that simple. I wonder what Shaykh Hamza and Imam Zaid would say about this. Maybe you could ask them?

    Well, the sisters were choosen, so I didn’t know what they would wear, and it was filmed last minute.

    What you want me to do, say: “you can’t be in the film because your clothing is to tight”

    I’d get beat up by my own mother, cuz my mother is not even a hijabi, but shes still my mother.

    Literally as soon as they came, we started to film and we ended that scene with about 10 minutes, cuz we had to go.

    And yeah, if you don’t like it, don’t watch it, its that simple. If you are watching TV, and you see something you don’t like, you change the channel. So all you gotta do is stop it and leave.

    Why would I ask Shaykh Hamza and Imam Zaid about this video, when they are so many important issues that I would want to ask them? Come on now.

  43. Mujahideen Ryder November 4th, 2006 at 5:32 pm | [ Quote ]

    btw Ahmad, I take it you dont watch movies then.

    MashaAllah that’s really good.

  44. Ahmad November 4th, 2006 at 5:38 pm | [ Quote ]

    I mentioned Shaykh Hamza and Imam Zaid because these are scholars about whom you post stuff on. From this I gather that you respect them as muslims and as scholars so I would expect you would emulate the sunnah of the prophet (S.A.W.). Sometimes doing the right thing isn’t easy. Getting to jannah isn’t easy either, it’s difficult. Bottom line, it’s not right to film women wearing improper attire. If you had to tell the sister that is the reason she can’t be in the film then so be it. Or maybe you could have come up with some excuse (without lying of course) so as to not her feelings. In any case it is not right to film women wearing improper attire, period. It sets a bad example and only causes fitnah. If I have said anything wrong, please forgive me. May Allah subahan wa ta alaa guide us all to what is good and pure, ameen.

  45. Mujahideen Ryder November 4th, 2006 at 5:46 pm | [ Quote ]

    Ahmad on November 4, 2006 at 5:38 pm said:

    I mentioned Shaykh Hamza and Imam Zaid because these are scholars about whom you post stuff on. From this I gather that you respect them as muslims and as scholars so I would expect you would emulate the sunnah of the prophet (S.A.W.). Sometimes doing the right thing isn’t easy. Getting to jannah isn’t easy either, it’s difficult. Bottom line, it’s not right to film women wearing improper attire. If you had to tell the sister that is the reason she can’t be in the film then so be it. Or maybe you could have come up with some excuse (without lying of course) so as to not her feelings. In any case it is not right to film women wearing improper attire, period. It sets a bad example and only causes fitnah. If I have said anything wrong, please forgive me. May Allah subahan wa ta alaa guide us all to what is good and pure, ameen.

    Tight clothing is defeats the purpose of Hijab. I agree with that.

    Well technically it’s already done. So the next time anything is done, it’ll be better inshaAllah.

  46. Ahmad November 4th, 2006 at 5:48 pm | [ Quote ]

    Brother, I am not saying you are a bad muslim or that you are going to hell, astugfirullah. I am not trying to attack you, but what’s wrong is wrong. A true muslim performs ibadat in all of his/her actions. Filming a movie where a woman does not dress properly is not ibadat. That is all I am saying. I am no better than anyone else, I make mistakes too, but the one that does not recognize what is wrong is at a loss because then you cannot repent to Allah for that action.

  47. Mujahideen Ryder November 4th, 2006 at 5:49 pm | [ Quote ]

    Ahmad on November 4, 2006 at 5:48 pm said:

    Brother, I am not saying you are a bad muslim or that you are going to hell, astugfirullah. I am not trying to attack you, but what’s wrong is wrong. A true muslim performs ibadat in all of his/her actions. Filming a movie where a woman does not dress properly is not ibadat. That is all I am saying. I am no better than anyone else, I make mistakes too, but the one that does not recognize what is wrong is at a loss because then you cannot repent to Allah for that action.

    Word

  48. egyptchick7 November 5th, 2006 at 7:04 pm | [ Quote ]

    Has anyone ever wondered as to why so called proper hijabis don’t appear in this video? Most “proper” hijabis are introverted and shy and would dare to appear in a video that “god forbid” would have intermingling or whatever y’all call it.

    I know some very outspoken “proper” hijabis with a sense of humor, but overall all the jilbabi’s at SBU MSA are pretty shy and introverted. But they have their reasons ( religiously speaking and I love them just the same )

    Anyways, MR it is your right to do this video and you should be happy with it. For all those haters out there, MR is right, don’t watch it. I wonder how many of you haters stopped watching it the minute “intermingling” was introduced? Doubtful.

    As to why the HIjabis featured don’t dress properly to the eyes of many, may I say that I know of those sisters is very well liked by many people at SBU, and while her heart is clean and he dress might be semi inappropriate with hijab, at least she is trying and is a wonderful person. Which, in reality is all what Allah (SWT) wants anyway. But may Allah guide those girls and me to become fully intuned to the proper way of dress :)

  49. MSA brother November 6th, 2006 at 10:14 am | [ Quote ]

    Ahmad, stop criticizing the girl’s clothing, go look in the mirror and find your own faults. thats the problem with muslims today, they find faults on everyone else except their own self

  50. henna November 6th, 2006 at 3:31 pm | [ Quote ]

    …wow, has any1 taken into consideration how that particual sister must be feeling?? i doubt it. Her intention was probably to feature in a comedic vid, and now she’s labelled a million and one things by her muslim brothers and sisters??

  51. Ahmad November 6th, 2006 at 9:44 pm | [ Quote ]

    As I said before I am not better than anyone else. I do feel conflicted posting what I had earlier because henna is right. The muslimah in the video may feel as though I and others are attacking her and villifying her. For that I am truly sorry, I really am. I hope the muslimah will forgive me and I pray that Allah will forgive me too. I don’t mean to attack her, but at the same time how should I respond to this? This is a PUBLIC forum, MR put up a video for all to see. As a muslim I don’t think it was proper for certain people to be shown in the clothing they were wearing. Look I don’t mean to get graphic, but you know what I was thinking when I was watching this movie? When I saw that muslimah the first thing that popped into my head was, “She has a nice body.” And astugifirAllah I kept looking !!! I know I am bad, you see, not only am I not better than anyone else, I am worse than everyone else. Ya Allah subhana wa ta alaa, please forgive this chronic sinner. After the second gaze I realized I committed a sin and then I turned away and turned off the movie without watching the rest of it. I’m sorry for sounding rude and crude here, but folks this is the point I am trying to make. A video image like that causes fitnah. There was this other hijabi there that was wearing loose clothing and nothing impure entered my heart when she was on screen and that is because she was more properly dressed. I’m not a hater. I don’t hate MR and I don’t hate anyone in the movie. I just wanted to point out that islamically it is not wise to film sisters who are wearing questionable attire. I have the right to state my opinion and no one can take that from me. If you disagree with me, ok, but don’t call me a hater, that is simply not fair.

  52. Ahmad November 6th, 2006 at 9:58 pm | [ Quote ]

    I just wanted to point out one other thing. Aren’t we taught as muslims that we should enjoin good and forbid evil? Aren’t we as muslims supposed to help one another? If you see your borther or sister doing something wrong, isn’t it your duty to do something about it? Now how you go about doing this can be wrong or right. If you think that I have gone about this the wrong way, ok, that is something I can accept, but the problem I always have with blogs, forums, and other such things is, how can you say anything critical without sounding like a hater on the internet? If it is the forum itself that lends itself to hostility.

  53. Ahmad November 6th, 2006 at 10:29 pm | [ Quote ]

    I want to comment further on this notion of enjoining good and forbidding evil. Shaykh Hamza once talked about how he saw these young muslim girls in a store one day wearing something completely inappropriate. Shaykh Hamza went over to tell them that he would hope that they would have more respect for themselves than that and he told them how the men out there are like wolves preying upon the sheep (women scantily dressed). So are you going to call Shaykh Hamza a hater too now? And you know what? He said he saw one of those girls at another time in the same store wearing a hijab! Now again, if you want to criticize me for the way I went about trying to correct my brother MR , then ok, please forgive me, I pray Allah will forgive me and I will try harder to go about this in a better way inshAllah. We all need to do our part to enjoin good and forbid evil.

  54. thejellymill November 6th, 2006 at 11:58 pm | [ Quote ]

    I agree with bro Ahmad 100%. I didn’t mean to offend any sisters and I even said before that I wasn’t meaning to pick on these two sisters but I was talking about the problem in general that hijabis seem to have nowadays and that is to dress in clothes that are appropriate for HIJABIS.

  55. keepitsimple November 7th, 2006 at 2:37 am | [ Quote ]

    As’salamu-Alaikum,
    What we should understand is that this film was made with pure intentions… if somethings were wrong with it and it is addressed… it only helps in making future attempts more successful… Insha’Allah in the future the ones who made the film and acted in it will be more aware. There is no more need to continue to bicker on this matter.

  56. Loved it November 7th, 2006 at 2:40 am | [ Quote ]

    Salaam.. I just wanted to let you guys no (MR) that I loveed the video clip! Ive been reading some of the comments that people have been leaving, and all i have to say is.. screw that!! If people are going to be interpreting the video wrong, than they should just turn their computers off, turn their TVs off, and sit down and do nothing. Just because you choose to live your life a certain way, does not mean you need to impose it on other people. These people made this video in good intentions of just having a good time, and random ppl have to always come up and try to ruin it. So all I have to say is, great job on the clip! hopefully we will be seeing some more soon Inshallah!

  57. Loved it November 7th, 2006 at 2:40 am | [ Quote ]

    Oh yeah.. the clip where the guy puts his hands up in duaa while driving.. priceless!!

  58. Philosophers November 7th, 2006 at 1:14 pm | [ Quote ]

    Salaam,

    Nice job! And I must say the professer was my favorite (my brother)….heh thats why! Anyway nice job on the video, and I think he is working on more.

    As for the debates going on about the clothing and intermixing, Juts read Mujahideen Ryder’s post.

  59. henna November 7th, 2006 at 3:20 pm | [ Quote ]

    Ahmad on November 6, 2006 at 9:58 pm said:

    I just wanted to point out one other thing. Aren’t we taught as muslims that we should enjoin good and forbid evil? Aren’t we as muslims supposed to help one another? If you see your borther or sister doing something wrong, isn’t it your duty to do something about it? Now how you go about doing this can be wrong or right. If you think that I have gone about this the wrong way, ok, that is something I can accept, but the problem I always have with blogs, forums, and other such things is, how can you say anything critical without sounding like a hater on the internet? If it is the forum itself that lends itself to hostility.

    just wanted to point out, in no way was my comment targeting you…i read the various comments, and as a sister, really felt for the girl in the vid….and regarding getting points across in blogs, u make a valid point.
    As i write this,im in a completely neutral mood, yet looking back at my comment, it seems rather patronising towards you, it isnt supposed to be. :)

  60. Old MSA Uncle November 7th, 2006 at 6:13 pm | [ Quote ]

    grow up people. Be mature, if you are going to have such thoughts as:

    When I saw that muslimah the first thing that popped into my head was, “She has a nice body.” And astugifirAllah I kept looking !!! I know I am bad, you see, not only am I not better than anyone else, I am worse than everyone else.

    Then dont leave ur home, dont go outside, dont watch tv, dont go to the mall, etc. Remain in seclusion and sit at home and do whatever it is you do (and stay off the computer too!).

    How do you think the sisters in the video feel reading these kind of comments said about them? I can imagine them being upset/embarassed. And for what? Personally, I dont know them, but i find this discussion entirely inappropriate.

    We live in an country where the majority of people are not Muslim, and even among the Muslims, where people have different opinions on many issues. Many sisters dont wear hijab (including many of our mothers), and those that do wear hijab - may not fit the criterion of hijab that you may have). You cannot make every1 follow exactly what you want, or even feel is appropriate, but what you aught to do is learn to respect others and what they choose to do. If you want to ‘forbid the evil’, do it with hikma. Speak to them personally. Amir has a private email addresss, voice these issues to him personally if you feel that adamant about it. Theres no point to publicly bash these sisters’ choice of clothing on such a forum.

    Forgive me if I sound harsh, but I have to speak the truth even if it is bitter.

    No you dont have to speak the truth if it is bitter. Wisdom takes precendence. And if you dont have anything wise to so, then its best to remain silent.

    And Allah (swt) knows best.

  61. Mujahideen Ryder November 8th, 2006 at 12:40 am | [ Quote ]

    MSA Uncles always use hikmah (wisdom)

  62. Aida November 8th, 2006 at 1:42 am | [ Quote ]

    As’salamu alaikum.

    In correcting something that was wrong we’ve all sinned ourselves. Did it occur to anyone that talking about the sister’s hijabing properly or not might be considered backbiting? We should all watch what we say insh’Allah…

    Great video MR and co :). I liked how you ended with solutions to the problems rather than just mocking our muslim brothers and sisters. Social psychologists say that’s a good method of persuasion lol.

  63. antiblindfollowing November 8th, 2006 at 6:11 am | [ Quote ]

    this video is a complete BIDAH!

  64. Ahmad November 8th, 2006 at 5:19 pm | [ Quote ]

    Old MSA uncle has a point, I should have emailed MR in private. That would have been much better. I didn’t know I could contact MR by email and I didn’t know his email address, but that was stupid of me, I should have figured it out and I am sorry for that. I am really tired of people telling me to stay at home, to not watch tv, etc. I don’t know why the people here keep comparing muslims to the non muslims. We are muslims and we should hold ourselves to the teachings of islam. Yeah I know what non muslims wear, ok, I get it. Yeah I know it’s on tv. So what’s your point? Should we muslims just go ahead and join that? I don’t get that argument at all. “Hey they film women who are improperly dressed so let’s copy them! Yeah !” What????? When a muslim does something, wether it be filimg a video or whatever, it should conform to islam. Stop telling me to stay indoors, ok, just stop that please. Stop telling me to stay in seclusion. Stop telling me to stay off the computer. It’s sad that some people equate criticism of a video to isloating yourself into seclusion. That is the sad state of the ummah today. “Hey if you can’t watch movies, go isolate yourself in seclusion!” What???? “Man, without tv and movies, there is no life, just stay at home and be bored.” Huh??? Movies can be fine, as long as they conform to islamic teachings. I’m not against all tv programs and movies. For instance documentaries are mostly clean. My comments were mature. I said some things because I wanted to show people honestly how I felt and how the video can cause fitnah. Again I want to reiterate the main purpose of my posts was not to bash the sisters. I didn’t suggest that we force those women to wear something else. What I did say is that they shouldn’t have been filmed. Choosing not to film a woman is not the same as going up to the woman and telling her and forcing her to change her clothes. I would like to remind people to be a bit more civil in their discourse. If you disagree with me, ok, but don’t insult me by telling me that I should keep my mouth shut and stay at home since you perceive that what I have to say is unwise. I didn’t bash anyone. I’m sorry if all of you took it that way. I should have emailed MR in private, yes, and for that I am sorry, that is my mistake. If you did feel as though I am bashing someone then why do you go right around and bash me in return? Do two wrongs make a right? Is that islam? May Allah subhana wa ta alaa guide us all to what is good and pure, ameen. Allah knows best.

  65. sarita November 16th, 2006 at 12:26 am | [ Quote ]

    Man, thats so true. Awesome video! *thumbs up*


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