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Tasawwuf haters: stop hatin and start lovin

  • Author: MR
  • Filed under: Islam
  • Date: Nov 25,2006 | 10:32 PM

This is dedicated to the brothers and sisters who posted comments regarding the Mawlid in Jeddah.

First of all, DUH! I know what the wasabis (the new term MR will use to refer to “those people”) think about mawlid. I also know what the deobandis think. The deobandis don’t really attack and condemn there brothers and sisters that do it, they just say they don’t do it and they believe it is wrong. On the other hand (as you can see the comments in the previous post), the wasabis go on an all out attack with the bida’ machine guns: bidabidabidabidabidabidabidabidabida.

I love the wasabis for the sake of Allah. In fact they do an amazing job in dawah, mashaAllah bringing people to Islam! Allah hu akbar! I also I’m very good friends with wasabis. (Shout out to all my wasabi brothers, love you guys man!) But some wasabi’s need to relax and realize that many people stick to what they believe in firmly.

In conclusion, wasabis from AlMaghrib Institute are good examples. Some of you wasabis should talk to the AlMaghrib wasabis. They are good brothers and sisters and they understand and realize that Muslims are different across the world and not everyone is either blue or yellow. Muslims come in all different colors and shades and wasabis need to realize that hatin on everyone won’t do you any good.

So to my wasabi brothers and sisters, start smiling! 😀

[This post has been brought to you by the bida’-free wasabi friends of MR]


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  • 28 Responses for "Tasawwuf haters: stop hatin and start lovin"

    1. Ahsan November 26th, 2006 at 12:25 am

      AA,

      how were the videos bidah? cmon, theyre just singing songs that help them remember Allah (SWT) and his messenger (pbuh). There are hadith where the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) listened to songs that praised Allah (SWT) and himself. The people in the video are only using dufs, which is perfectly permissable. so whats the problem?

    2. Hiba Sharif November 26th, 2006 at 3:04 am

      GOOOOOO WASABI’S 😀

      By the way what does that mean? wasabi?

      Asalamu Alykum

    3. shab November 26th, 2006 at 11:51 am

      All we were doing is Naseeha and forbiding evil and enjoining good is part of our imaan- you can call it ‘hating’ but thats your term. i as a muslim would never ‘hate’ anyone (ya not even non-muslims) and ‘sufis’ are sister wing of sunnis-:) so we embrace them as well eventhough im anti jumping up and down and shouting Allah Akbar-(if Prophet pbuh and his companions saw this i wonder how would they react? we all know umar ra’s famous stick-right)

    4. Sami November 26th, 2006 at 2:18 pm

      Shouldn’t it be your intention that counts to determine what you do is rather good or bad. In this case if their intention is to praise Allah (SWT) and our prophet (PBUH), then I ask you my brothers and sisters do you see any problem with it.

    5. Mujahideen Ryder November 26th, 2006 at 2:58 pm

      shab on November 26, 2006 at 11:51 am said:

      All we were doing is Naseeha and forbiding evil and enjoining good is part of our imaan- you can call it ‘hating’ but thats your term. i as a muslim would never ‘hate’ anyone (ya not even non-muslims) and ‘sufis’ are sister wing of sunnis-:) so we embrace them as well eventhough im anti jumping up and down and shouting Allah Akbar-(if Prophet pbuh and his companions saw this i wonder how would they react? we all know umar ra’s famous stick-right)

      There is a difference between giving nasiha, and pulling out the bida machine gun.

      Nasiha Example:

      Brother A participates in the mawlid
      Wasabi brother B says: “Brother I don’t agree with this. I think you should stay away from it. It is not from what I have learned from the Quran and Sunnah.”

      Bida machine gun example:

      Brother A participates in the mawlid
      Wasabi brother B says: “This is bida’! Your singing is bida’! Your clothing is bida’! This whole entire thing is bida’! You are gettings sins! This is not from the Quran and Sunnah! Repent or else your going to hell!”

    6. Yo November 26th, 2006 at 4:20 pm

      Aint wasabi them japanese dipin things
      them things u eat wit sushi

    7. Al November 26th, 2006 at 5:34 pm

      Were under occupation, humiliated, and being killed…and all you guys can argue about is what is “bidah: and what isn’t….no wonder this crap is happening to us….u guys need to take a look at the bigger picture and stop bickering over these details….

      May Allah (swt) help us all…

    8. shab November 26th, 2006 at 7:23 pm

      Mujahideen Ryder on November 26, 2006 at 2:58 pm said:

      There is a difference between giving nasiha, and pulling out the bida machine gun.

      Nasiha Example:

      Brother A participates in the mawlid
      Wasabi brother B says: “Brother I don’t agree with this. I think you should stay away from it. It is not from what I have learned from the Quran and Sunnah.”

      Bida machine gun example:

      Brother A participates in the mawlid
      Wasabi brother B says: “This is bida’! Your singing is bida’! Your clothing is bida’! This whole entire thing is bida’! You are gettings sins! This is not from the Quran and Sunnah! Repent or else your going to hell!”

      this is very exaggerated! i highly doubt if anyone goes to such an extent- you need to change the crowd u hang out with- :)

    9. abdullah November 26th, 2006 at 11:00 pm

      I’m confused. what is wasabi and all that other stuff?

    10. Samireye November 26th, 2006 at 11:52 pm

      I also have a new term for everyone. MR Agitation. lol.

    11. Bint Muhammad November 27th, 2006 at 9:52 am

      lol

    12. Adam November 27th, 2006 at 8:00 pm

      shab on November 26, 2006 at 11:51 am said:

      All we were doing is Naseeha and forbiding evil and enjoining good is part of our imaan- you can call it ‘hating’ but thats your term. i as a muslim would never ‘hate’ anyone (ya not even non-muslims) and ‘sufis’ are sister wing of sunnis-:) so we embrace them as well eventhough im anti jumping up and down and shouting Allah Akbar-(if Prophet pbuh and his companions saw this i wonder how would they react? we all know umar ra’s famous stick-right)

      I thought the following may help answer your question inshAllah.

      “The story of the “sons of Arfida”—a familiar Arabian linguistic reference to Ethiopians—provides a telling illustration of the place of culture (here, of course, Black African culture) within the Prophetic dispensation. In celebration of an annual Islamic religious festival, a group of Black African converts began to beat leather drums and dance with spears in the Prophet’s mosque. ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab—one of the chief Companions—felt compelled to interfere and stop them, but the Prophet intervened on their behalf, directing ‘Umar to leave them alone and noting to him that they were “the sons of Arfida,” that is, not his people. The Prophet invited his wife A’isha to watch the dance, took her into the crowd, and lifted her over his back, so that she could watch them clearly as she eagerly leaned forward, her cheek pressing against his. The Prophet made it a point to dispel the Ethiopians’ misgivings about ‘Umar’s intrusion and encouraged them to dance well and, in one account of this authentic story, reassured them to keep up their drumming and dancing, saying: “Play your games, sons of Arfida, so the Jews and Christians know there is latitude in our religion.””
      http://www.nawawi.org/downloads/article3.pdf

    13. Adam November 27th, 2006 at 8:02 pm

      shab on November 26, 2006 at 11:51 am said:

      All we were doing is Naseeha and forbiding evil and enjoining good is part of our imaan- you can call it ‘hating’ but thats your term. i as a muslim would never ‘hate’ anyone (ya not even non-muslims) and ‘sufis’ are sister wing of sunnis-:) so we embrace them as well eventhough im anti jumping up and down and shouting Allah Akbar-(if Prophet pbuh and his companions saw this i wonder how would they react? we all know umar ra’s famous stick-right)

      I thought the following may help answer your question, inshAllah.

      “The story of the “sons of Arfida”—a familiar Arabian linguistic reference to Ethiopians—provides a telling illustration of the place of culture (here, of course, Black African culture) within the Prophetic dispensation. In celebration of an annual Islamic religious festival, a group of Black African converts began to beat leather drums and dance with spears in the Prophet’s mosque. ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab—one of the chief Companions—felt compelled to interfere and stop them, but the Prophet intervened on their behalf, directing ‘Umar to leave them alone and noting to him that they were “the sons of Arfida,” that is, not his people. The Prophet invited his wife A’isha to watch the dance, took her into the crowd, and lifted her over his back, so that she could watch them clearly as she eagerly leaned forward, her cheek pressing against his. The Prophet made it a point to dispel the Ethiopians’ misgivings about ‘Umar’s intrusion and encouraged them to dance well and, in one account of this authentic story, reassured them to keep up their drumming and dancing, saying: “Play your games, sons of Arfida, so the Jews and Christians know there is latitude in our religion.””
      http://www.nawawi.org/downloads/article3.pdf

    14. Imran Khan November 28th, 2006 at 2:04 am

      “(if Prophet pbuh and his companions saw this i wonder how would they react? we all know umar ra’s famous stick-right)”

      We also know that when Umar RA saw the performance of a twenty rakah taraweeh in jamat, something that had never been done in the Prophet SallAllahu ‘alayhi wasalam’s time, he remarked in happiness, “What a wonderful bid’ah”.
      It boils down to one’s definition of what a Bid’ah is, and a vast majority of scholars agree that there is such a thing as “bidah hasanat” and “bidah sayeeat”, and the defining factor is if it goes against an act of Islam….if it does, it is bidah sayeeat, and rejected.
      Using specific references of grave worship or other haram activity of some sufis is not a proof against sufism, just as using references of terrorism and other haram activities of muslims is not a proof against Islam. It is simply an attestment to the fact that Muslims are illiterate in their Deen…Throwing out Tasawwuf, because of the actions of “would be” sufis is making a dead letter of a large portion of this deen…

    15. shab November 28th, 2006 at 12:46 pm

      Imran Khan on November 28, 2006 at 2:04 am said:

      “(if Prophet pbuh and his companions saw this i wonder how would they react? we all know umar ra’s famous stick-right)”

      We also know that when Umar RA saw the performance of a twenty rakah taraweeh in jamat, something that had never been done in the Prophet SallAllahu ‘alayhi wasalam’s time, he remarked in happiness, “What a wonderful bid’ah”.
      It boils down to one’s definition of what a Bid’ah is, and a vast majority of scholars agree that there is such a thing as “bidah hasanat” and “bidah sayeeat”, and the defining factor is if it goes against an act of Islam….if it does, it is bidah sayeeat, and rejected.
      Using specific references of grave worship or other haram activity of some sufis is not a proof against sufism, just as using references of terrorism and other haram activities of muslims is not a proof against Islam. It is simply an attestment to the fact that Muslims are illiterate in their Deen…Throwing out Tasawwuf, because of the actions of “would be” sufis is making a dead letter of a large portion of this deen…

      Subhan’Allah, its amazing how people just choose the part which suits their whims and ignore the rest- Prophet pbuh did taraweeh in jamah for THREE nights and fourth night he didnt show up (for fear that it might become fardh on us) so Umar ra only revived taraweeh. he certainly didnt invent it.

    16. Al-Hanbali November 28th, 2006 at 3:42 pm

      asalamu aleykum

      keep in mind that the prophet sallah Allahu 3alayhi wa sallam. praised the way of the sahaba and commanded us that we follow the sunnah of the rightly guided caliphes.thus saying that Omar radiya Allahu 3anhu prayed 20 rak3aat for taraweeh does not fall under bidda hassana as you call it.

      there is no such thing as bida hassana and bida sayi2a. hassan and whats not is relative, you could find something hassan, and i could find it bad, hence you have all these sufi tariqas of which some claim to posses absolute truth and if you leave them, your teeth will fall out and all sorts of naty things happen to you.

      prophet Muhammad saw is the best person whom worshiped Allah, and in his ways are the best ways to worship Allah, if you claim to come up with any new form of worship then surely you either claim that prophet Muhammad’s saws way of worship was not suffice, or there are better ways, therefore new ones need to be adopted.

      whoever claims that in deen is bidda hassana then he has claimed that the messenger has betrayed the message as Imam Mailk has said.

      من رغب عن سنتي فليس مني

      whoever turns away from my sunnah then he is not of me

      yes it is bidah and some of your those who commented agree, yet they label is as hassana,

      the evil of matter are its innovations and EVERY innovation is a bidah and EVERY bidah is misguidance and EVERY misguidance in the hell fire.

      since Every (kull/كل) means there is no exception to the rule, in a sentence which the prophet saw use to say in his Friday khutbas and imams of Friday prayers say it on the minbar today as a continuation of that sunnah, i wonder why do they even say things which they dont believe in?

      not only it is harram to do bidah but it also creates disunity in the ummah,

      its a serious issue.

    17. Mujahideen Ryder November 28th, 2006 at 3:54 pm

      Al-Hanbali on November 28, 2006 at 3:42 pm said:

      asalamu aleykum

      keep in mind that the prophet sallah Allahu 3alayhi wa sallam. praised the way of the sahaba and commanded us that we follow the sunnah of the rightly guided caliphes.thus saying that Omar radiya Allahu 3anhu prayed 20 rak3aat for taraweeh does not fall under bidda hassana as you call it.

      there is no such thing as bida hassana and bida sayi2a. hassan and whats not is relative, you could find something hassan, and i could find it bad, hence you have all these sufi tariqas of which some claim to posses absolute truth and if you leave them, your teeth will fall out and all sorts of naty things happen to you.

      prophet Muhammad saw is the best person whom worshiped Allah, and in his ways are the best ways to worship Allah, if you claim to come up with any new form of worship then surely you either claim that prophet Muhammad’s saws way of worship was not suffice, or there are better ways, therefore new ones need to be adopted.

      whoever claims that in deen is bidda hassana then he has claimed that the messenger has betrayed the message as Imam Mailk has said.

      من رغب عن سنتي فليس مني

      whoever turns away from my sunnah then he is not of me

      yes it is bidah and some of your those who commented agree, yet they label is as hassana,

      the evil of matter are its innovations and EVERY innovation is a bidah and EVERY bidah is misguidance and EVERY misguidance in the hell fire.

      since Every (kull/كل) means there is no exception to the rule, in a sentence which the prophet saw use to say in his Friday khutbas and imams of Friday prayers say it on the minbar today as a continuation of that sunnah, i wonder why do they even say things which they dont believe in?

      not only it is harram to do bidah but it also creates disunity in the ummah,

      its a serious issue.

      you should change your name from Al-Hanbali to Al-Salafi

      oh wait, they’re both biddah. no wait, this blog is biddah, no wait, the whole internet is biddah

      ahhhh so much biddah

      ::runs into a cave::

    18. Al-Hanbali November 28th, 2006 at 11:03 pm

      asalamu aleykum
      if you havent realised, your blog advertises for websites that insult Islam!

      its As-Salafi not Al-Salafi by the way.
      yeah run to the caves you bidah lovers 😛

      peace bro.

    19. Mujahideen Ryder November 28th, 2006 at 11:49 pm

      Al-Hanbali on November 28, 2006 at 11:03 pm said:

      asalamu aleykum
      if you havent realised, your blog advertises for websites that insult Islam!

      its As-Salafi not Al-Salafi by the way.
      yeah run to the caves you bidah lovers 😛

      peace bro.

      Can you please let me know the URL, so I can block them. JazakumAllah khiar

    20. Mujahideen Ryder November 29th, 2006 at 12:02 am

      Al-Hanbali on November 28, 2006 at 11:03 pm said:

      asalamu aleykum
      if you havent realised, your blog advertises for websites that insult Islam!

      its As-Salafi not Al-Salafi by the way.
      yeah run to the caves you bidah lovers 😛

      peace bro.

      can you please let me know what URLs the ads link to, so i can block them

    21. Ayoub December 1st, 2006 at 12:52 am

      Al on November 26, 2006 at 5:34 pm said:

      Were under occupation, humiliated, and being killed…and all you guys can argue about is what is “bidah: and what isn’t….no wonder this crap is happening to us….u guys need to take a look at the bigger picture and stop bickering over these details….

      May Allah (swt) help us all…

      Constant and growth of bidah in the muslim ummah leads to the things you just stated.

    22. SjunaidH December 1st, 2006 at 10:53 am

      First off, I am the more ‘liberal’ kind. Very supportive of Sufism (don’t freak out, I’m talking the real sufis, not the ones that started changing the rules).

      It may help all of us to think about how and why the sufis came about. After the age of Ta’leem and ta’allum, Muslims had all this knowledge but had begun to lose their relationship/closeness with Allah (subhana-wa-ta’ala). And so this group of people arose to ‘REVIVE’ (read: NOT ‘Begin Anew’) the effort for people to REdevelop their relationship with The Creator. The Sahaba (RA) did this as part of their daily lives, and didn’t require this extraneous effort (an effect of the cause of decreasing emaan Ummah-wide).
      I’m not saying all of us now need to go out and start sitting under trees for 5 hrs a day reciting some dhikr 20,000 daily, but its good to keep in mind that there are people dedicated to sincerely developing a closeness to Allah (SWT).

      Junaid

    23. bliss December 3rd, 2006 at 5:41 pm

      MR: “you should change your name from Al-Hanbali to Al-Salafi

      oh wait, they’re both biddah. no wait, this blog is biddah, no wait, the whole internet is biddah

      ahhhh so much biddah

      ::runs into a cave:: ”

      uh.. that was just downright disrespectful.

      Why do so many brothers forget their etiquettes and manners (when we all know they have them)

      Don’t rely on your hormones to do the talking.

      JazakAllah khair.

    24. lamb_kabob December 3rd, 2006 at 6:36 pm

      bliss, you totally just contradicted yourself. If you want to correct someone, then please do so with mercy and compassion. Your comments are lacking adab as well.

    25. bliss December 3rd, 2006 at 9:59 pm

      Contradicted myself? actually…I don’t think I did. I merely stated that the bro’s got etiquette, that in itself shows that i wasn’t ranting for the sake of ranting, and mercy/compassion can be (if one wants) seen in the fact that I even MADE a comment stating something to the effect of – ‘bro ur better than this’

      And when it seems like some1s discourse seems a bit awry, one is expected to speculate and hold the hormones at fault. Do you find anything wrong with that? Men/Women do it to women all the time.

      JazakAllah Khair and Salam.

      I’ll be keeping my adab in check, thanq for the reminder.

    26. ExEx Blogger August 7th, 2007 at 3:44 pm

      @ MR
      Um… to put me on the same level as ‘wahhabees’ is an offense I take to heart and to say that I was there homies is something I don’t appreciate.

    27. Mujahideen Ryder August 7th, 2007 at 4:01 pm

      ExEx Blogger on August 7, 2007 at 3:44 pm said:

      @ MR
      Um… to put me on the same level as ‘wahhabees’ is an offense I take to heart and to say that I was there homies is something I don’t appreciate.

      *’Salafees’

      My bad, I take it back.

    28. ExEx Blogger August 9th, 2007 at 8:59 pm

      Uh…I aint salafi like those madkhalis. I aint those.

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