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	<title>Comments on: KFC ain&#8217;t &#8216;AK&#8217; for all you &#8216;AK&#8217; people</title>
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		<title>By: Muadh Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2007/04/29/kfc-aint-ak-for-all-you-ak-people/comment-page-1/#comment-152602</link>
		<dc:creator>Muadh Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asslamo Allaikum, 

The meat of Ahlul-Kitaab is HALAL according to Qur’aan but in the West due to employment lawas and regulations when you go down to your neighbourhood KFC of McDonalds you can’t be sure if the slaughterer was a Hindu, Atheist, Christian or a Devil worshipper.

This doubt renders the meat in the West at least the one which is being done by Christians impermissible because of the principle that all of the scholars of Fiqh have confirmed – either implicitly or explicitly –is that the default ruling of animals is that they are haram until it is confirmed that they have been slaughtered properly. And an-Nawawi said: (130) “This principle is a point of consensus between the scholars, and there is no dispute regarding it,” and he commented on the aforementioned hadith of ‘Adiyy bin Hatim that will be mentioned (if Allah Wills) by saying: “It shows an important principle, and this is that if there is any doubt regarding the method of slaughter of an animal, it is not allowed to eat it due to the fact that the default ruling is that it is forbidden, and there is no dispute on this.” (131)

Al-Kasani said: “Allah made an exception from the prohibited meats for the meat that is properly slaughtered, and the exception from the forbidden means that it is allowed, as prohibition of an animal is not removed except by slaughtering it correctly.”

Ibn Rajab said: (170) “As for what is by default forbidden, such as sexual relations and the meat of animals, these are not permissible unless it is certain that the proper
contract and proper slaughter has been performed, respectively.” 

Ibn Qudamah said: (171) “The default is to avoid them, and their permissibility is tied to a condition, which is that they be slaughtered properly by those who are qualified to do so.”

And this is what Ibn Taymiyyah said in many places in his ‘Fatawa’: (172)  “Sexual relations and slaughtered meat are not allowed when there is doubt as to their status.”

(130) See ‘al-Majmu’’ (9/65)
(131) ‘Sharh Sahih Muslim’ (13/78), and see ‘Bulugh al-Amani min al-Fath ar-Rabbani’ (17/144)
(134) ‘Bada’i’ as-Sana’i’’ (6/276)
(170) ‘Jami’ al-‘Ulum wal-Hikam’ (1/189)
(171) ‘al-Mughni’ (8/571)
(172) ‘Majmu’ al-Fatawa’ (21/89, 21/100, &amp; 32/190)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asslamo Allaikum, </p>
<p>The meat of Ahlul-Kitaab is HALAL according to Qur’aan but in the West due to employment lawas and regulations when you go down to your neighbourhood KFC of McDonalds you can’t be sure if the slaughterer was a Hindu, Atheist, Christian or a Devil worshipper.</p>
<p>This doubt renders the meat in the West at least the one which is being done by Christians impermissible because of the principle that all of the scholars of Fiqh have confirmed – either implicitly or explicitly –is that the default ruling of animals is that they are haram until it is confirmed that they have been slaughtered properly. And an-Nawawi said: (130) “This principle is a point of consensus between the scholars, and there is no dispute regarding it,” and he commented on the aforementioned hadith of ‘Adiyy bin Hatim that will be mentioned (if Allah Wills) by saying: “It shows an important principle, and this is that if there is any doubt regarding the method of slaughter of an animal, it is not allowed to eat it due to the fact that the default ruling is that it is forbidden, and there is no dispute on this.” (131)</p>
<p>Al-Kasani said: “Allah made an exception from the prohibited meats for the meat that is properly slaughtered, and the exception from the forbidden means that it is allowed, as prohibition of an animal is not removed except by slaughtering it correctly.”</p>
<p>Ibn Rajab said: (170) “As for what is by default forbidden, such as sexual relations and the meat of animals, these are not permissible unless it is certain that the proper<br />
contract and proper slaughter has been performed, respectively.” </p>
<p>Ibn Qudamah said: (171) “The default is to avoid them, and their permissibility is tied to a condition, which is that they be slaughtered properly by those who are qualified to do so.”</p>
<p>And this is what Ibn Taymiyyah said in many places in his ‘Fatawa’: (172)  “Sexual relations and slaughtered meat are not allowed when there is doubt as to their status.”</p>
<p>(130) See ‘al-Majmu’’ (9/65)<br />
(131) ‘Sharh Sahih Muslim’ (13/78), and see ‘Bulugh al-Amani min al-Fath ar-Rabbani’ (17/144)<br />
(134) ‘Bada’i’ as-Sana’i’’ (6/276)<br />
(170) ‘Jami’ al-‘Ulum wal-Hikam’ (1/189)<br />
(171) ‘al-Mughni’ (8/571)<br />
(172) ‘Majmu’ al-Fatawa’ (21/89, 21/100, &amp; 32/190)</p>
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		<title>By: ..........uk</title>
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		<dc:creator>..........uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dixy is halaal btw do da best chicken burgers:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dixy is halaal btw do da best chicken burgers:D</p>
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		<title>By: Frinianum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frinianum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting! Look for some my links:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting! Look for some my links:</p>
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		<title>By: Ashraf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashraf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 05:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allah says that zabiha of AK is halal, Rasool Allah says that it&#039;s halal.  What these Christians and Jews have done that neigher Allah found out nor Rasool Allah found out, but some of us did and those some of us says it haram.......

I&#039;m afraid we are headind in the same direction, the Christian&#039;s did, i.e. Bible according to Mark, Mathew, John and Luke, our&#039;s is Quran according to Zaid, Omar, Bakar...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allah says that zabiha of AK is halal, Rasool Allah says that it&#8217;s halal.  What these Christians and Jews have done that neigher Allah found out nor Rasool Allah found out, but some of us did and those some of us says it haram&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid we are headind in the same direction, the Christian&#8217;s did, i.e. Bible according to Mark, Mathew, John and Luke, our&#8217;s is Quran according to Zaid, Omar, Bakar&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: imran</title>
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		<dc:creator>imran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 02:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not AK, but I don&#039;t think that video really negates the salafi&#039;s position that AK meat, particularly KFC chicken, is halal. In fact, that video did show that the meat is slaughtered. The modern salafi would only consider it haram if a high enough percentage of the chickens die before their throats are slit. I think that was the case in Qaradawi&#039;s fatwa of &quot;haram&quot;ing meat in Europe. 

Correct me please</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not AK, but I don&#8217;t think that video really negates the salafi&#8217;s position that AK meat, particularly KFC chicken, is halal. In fact, that video did show that the meat is slaughtered. The modern salafi would only consider it haram if a high enough percentage of the chickens die before their throats are slit. I think that was the case in Qaradawi&#8217;s fatwa of &#8220;haram&#8221;ing meat in Europe. </p>
<p>Correct me please</p>
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		<title>By: Hibah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hibah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 15:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very happy to see this post brother. I think what Muslims fail to realize is that animal abuse is not confined to these fast food joints. These atrocities are occuring in factory farms around the world. And sadly Muslims are contributing to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.savethesheep.com/f-australialiveexports.asp&quot; title=&quot;horrors&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
Also watch the video http://youtube.com/watch?v=pSrDolhsS8A

Islam does not justify these acts. This is why I have chosen the path of veganism. Eating meat is not a pillar of Islam. Insh&#039;Allah more Muslims will come to realize the suffering.
 &quot;Let there be among you a community who enjoin good and forbid evil; it is they that shall be successful&quot; [3:104]. Also, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) condemed animal abuse and was merciful towards creatures. He said, &quot;You will not have a secure faith until you love one another and have mercy on those who live upon the earth.&quot; (Bukhari, Muslim, and Abu Dawud).

&lt;b&gt;&quot;...We have made animals subject to you, that ye may be grateful&quot; (Al-Qur&#039;an 22:36).&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very happy to see this post brother. I think what Muslims fail to realize is that animal abuse is not confined to these fast food joints. These atrocities are occuring in factory farms around the world. And sadly Muslims are contributing to the <a href="http://www.savethesheep.com/f-australialiveexports.asp" title="horrors" rel="nofollow"><br />
Also watch the video </a><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=pSrDolhsS8A" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=pSrDolhsS8A</a></p>
<p>Islam does not justify these acts. This is why I have chosen the path of veganism. Eating meat is not a pillar of Islam. Insh&#8217;Allah more Muslims will come to realize the suffering.<br />
 &#8220;Let there be among you a community who enjoin good and forbid evil; it is they that shall be successful&#8221; [3:104]. Also, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) condemed animal abuse and was merciful towards creatures. He said, &#8220;You will not have a secure faith until you love one another and have mercy on those who live upon the earth.&#8221; (Bukhari, Muslim, and Abu Dawud).</p>
<p><b>&#8220;&#8230;We have made animals subject to you, that ye may be grateful&#8221; (Al-Qur&#8217;an 22:36).</b></p>
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		<title>By: Just Kidding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Kidding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 16:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The main ingredient is cruelty.&quot; 


But cruelty tastes so good</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The main ingredient is cruelty.&#8221; </p>
<p>But cruelty tastes so good</p>
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		<title>By: SisAddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SisAddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 00:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salam bros and sis of Islam, PLZ READ IF U WANT CLARIFICATION (sorry its long)

Lets come to an agreement, whenever we have a dispute within ourselves letâ€™s turn to our ultimate source, the Quran and the Prophet (pbuh) saying. Is everyone ok with that? Iâ€™m sorry Iâ€™m going to have to give salafis and sufis and all others fis the back seat on this because we are going to that which we all have in common, hope your all good with that.

Surah # 6: Al An-am, verse 118: â€œSo eat of that which Allahâ€™s name (meat) has been pronounced, if you are believers in His Ayat ( proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations).â€
In verse 118, Allah himself tells us to to eat food (meat really) on which Allahâ€™s name has been pronounced, and links our of obedience to Allahâ€™s command as evidence of our belief. Now that cant be taken lightly. But what about the meats of the A.Ks, Ahlul-Kitab? Thatâ€™s in the Quran too, thatâ€™s means we are allowed right ? Wrong, and this is no contradiction in the Quran, and only goes to show that the original Christians and Jews were ordered to slaughter in the name of God. 
Surah # 6: Al An-am, verse 121: â€œEat not (O believers) of that (meat) on which Allahâ€™s name has not been pronounced, for sure it is Fisq (a sin and disobedience to Allah). And certainly, the devils do inspire their friends (from mankind) to dispute with you, and if you obey them, then indeed you will be Mushrikeen (polytheists).â€
The verse above can be nothing short of damning evidence that we cannot eat meat upon which Allahâ€™s name was not mentioned on the slaughter. Allah warns us that disobedience in this command makes one the same stance as a one who associates partners with Allah (polytheists). Thatâ€™s a pretty heavy price to pay, so donâ€™t you want to be sure? Why arenâ€™t you looking out for yourselves, the rewards and punishments will only be given to you, not some salafi or sufi group ( I forget which one Mujahideen quoted). Man, start by respecting yourself and your body and whenever you come across issues of Halal and Haram, do Yourself that favor and ascertain its 100% Halal. 
All good is from Allah and all mistakes are from me (&amp; lots of grammar mistakes, err)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salam bros and sis of Islam, PLZ READ IF U WANT CLARIFICATION (sorry its long)</p>
<p>Lets come to an agreement, whenever we have a dispute within ourselves letâ€™s turn to our ultimate source, the Quran and the Prophet (pbuh) saying. Is everyone ok with that? Iâ€™m sorry Iâ€™m going to have to give salafis and sufis and all others fis the back seat on this because we are going to that which we all have in common, hope your all good with that.</p>
<p>Surah # 6: Al An-am, verse 118: â€œSo eat of that which Allahâ€™s name (meat) has been pronounced, if you are believers in His Ayat ( proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations).â€<br />
In verse 118, Allah himself tells us to to eat food (meat really) on which Allahâ€™s name has been pronounced, and links our of obedience to Allahâ€™s command as evidence of our belief. Now that cant be taken lightly. But what about the meats of the A.Ks, Ahlul-Kitab? Thatâ€™s in the Quran too, thatâ€™s means we are allowed right ? Wrong, and this is no contradiction in the Quran, and only goes to show that the original Christians and Jews were ordered to slaughter in the name of God.<br />
Surah # 6: Al An-am, verse 121: â€œEat not (O believers) of that (meat) on which Allahâ€™s name has not been pronounced, for sure it is Fisq (a sin and disobedience to Allah). And certainly, the devils do inspire their friends (from mankind) to dispute with you, and if you obey them, then indeed you will be Mushrikeen (polytheists).â€<br />
The verse above can be nothing short of damning evidence that we cannot eat meat upon which Allahâ€™s name was not mentioned on the slaughter. Allah warns us that disobedience in this command makes one the same stance as a one who associates partners with Allah (polytheists). Thatâ€™s a pretty heavy price to pay, so donâ€™t you want to be sure? Why arenâ€™t you looking out for yourselves, the rewards and punishments will only be given to you, not some salafi or sufi group ( I forget which one Mujahideen quoted). Man, start by respecting yourself and your body and whenever you come across issues of Halal and Haram, do Yourself that favor and ascertain its 100% Halal.<br />
All good is from Allah and all mistakes are from me (&amp; lots of grammar mistakes, err)</p>
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		<title>By: MuslimTorrents.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 18:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dang...that was really disturbing. I&#039;m sure anyone who sees that video will stop eating KFC...doesn&#039;t matter if your are zabihah only eater or even Christian. Imagine what other stuff goes on by other companies like McDonalds that we don&#039;t hear about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang&#8230;that was really disturbing. I&#8217;m sure anyone who sees that video will stop eating KFC&#8230;doesn&#8217;t matter if your are zabihah only eater or even Christian. Imagine what other stuff goes on by other companies like McDonalds that we don&#8217;t hear about.</p>
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		<title>By: Yursil Kidwai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yursil Kidwai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 11:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definately not tassawuf in that video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definately not tassawuf in that video.</p>
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