Comments on: Egypt – Children Who Don’t Exist

By: Egyptian | Alexandria

Egyptian | Alexandria — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:08:21 +0000

Every one of those kids, and every one who’s been led into this dhulm, will inshaAllah on the day of judgement, stand before God, as witnesses against the terrorist mob that is Mubarak and the organised criminals around him. One day the world will see what happens to criminals who enslave whole populations – Egypt will be an example

By: nural

nural — Sat, 12 May 2007 22:28:48 +0000

it is not only practice in Egypt.. but sadly throuhout Arab countries… This Urfee MArriae thing has bn around in ages..only now, the UK documentaries wnt to expose how insulting d muslim or Arab communities are. Nauzubillah!!!

May Allah SWT enlighten us with straight path and guide our heart to d part of jannah, AMEEN

By: YoussefAlMasry

YoussefAlMasry — Fri, 04 May 2007 13:22:44 +0000

Alsalamualaikum akhi (aw oukhti) anonymous,

In my post above I quoted two scholars from two sites with differing perspectives on Islam that, nonetheless, were in agreement that marriages done in secret, especially in the absence of the wali of the woman, go against the sunnah. True, this evidence is not, as you requested “the whole history behind the ruling of those marriage[s] [being] Halal in Egypt,” but it is also not “like a lot of people who just quote stuff straight out of a Hadith book.”
Moreover the hadith that the second scholar provided is as straight forward as it gets: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Any woman who gets married without the permission of her guardian, her marriage is invalid,’ three times. Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2083.” I really can’t find a shred of ambiguity there.

Again, this practice and its terrible outcomes should not be used as a condemnation of Egyptian society at large. Moreover, and I should have made this clearer, my vehement disagreement with the scholars in Egyptian who authorize this type of marriage is, again, not meant to undermine the entire scholarly community there, or even the specific ulema’ who gave this fatwa. In fact, I pray that Allah guides and perserves the true ulema’ in Egypt who are much more learned in the deen than I will ever be. It is simply my observation that there are many other ulema who have different views on 3orfee marriage than those in Egypt, and it is my preference to accept the former opinion.

By: Kareema Abdul-Khabir

Kareema Abdul-Khabir — Fri, 04 May 2007 05:47:12 +0000

Until Muslims figure out how to do half of their deen correctly, I really don’t see a true islamic revival…

On a more positive note, check out this matrimonialevent May 6th:

http://www.islamiccenterofirvine.com/comments.php?id=143&catid=1#H

By: anonymous

anonymous — Thu, 03 May 2007 19:13:50 +0000

Salaams all,
I think the Egyptian scholars who came up with the justification for this type of marriage were probably well learned and had a justification for doing so. You guys are acting like a lot of people who just quote stuff straight out of a Hadith book and try to apply it to specific situations without knowing exactly what went on behind those rulings etc…
So, for me i am not sure whether those marriages are halal or Haram because i am not learned in Islamic Jurisprudence and i will guarantee that most of the people with comments above are not, unless i hear it from a well learned scholar about the whole history behind the ruling of those marriage Halal in Egypt, i will not come out blazing how this is so Haram, Egypt is not a muslim country, Arabs claim to be better muslims than us and look at what they are doing.. just the comments that came out above were really surprising.

By: White Rose

White Rose — Wed, 02 May 2007 07:32:09 +0000

Urfee marriage does sound similar to muta and muta is no longer allowed. Mahr is compulsory and should be agreed upon by both parties. If there are women ready to give up their maher, then the marriage is still valid as far as I know but a marriage should be documented. I agreed with what was said in the video in regards to the reason that majority on the youngsters consider urfee marriage as an excuse to have a relationship.

Regarding that actor, I am suspicious of him. If the child is not his, why did he refuse a DNA test? If he committed zina, why isn’t he in jail?

I feel sorry that the fathers are refusing to educate their daughters. I think every child has the right to be treated fairly, to be loved and taken care of by the parents. It seems like these fathers consider their daughters to be just a burden. They just didn’t bury them alive like they used to.

May Allah (swt) guide us all to the straight path. Ameen

By: aaliyah

aaliyah — Wed, 02 May 2007 06:16:05 +0000

so is urfree marriage haram. or halal???

By: unknown

unknown — Wed, 02 May 2007 03:38:29 +0000

I think Shaykh Ali Juma’ was quoted out of context. We have to becareful when these documentaries edit things.

By: This Is Messed Up « Thoughts of a Hijaabi

This Is Messed Up « Thoughts of a Hijaabi — Wed, 02 May 2007 01:15:17 +0000

[...] into my head… « “Virginia Tech Struggles to Return to Normal” This Is Messed Up May 2nd, 2007 I found this on Mujahideen Ryder’s Blog, I cant beleive something like thisis taking place. These corrupt governments make me sick as they destroy lives and continue to give Islam a bad name. [...]

By: zaynab

zaynab — Tue, 01 May 2007 23:13:01 +0000

SubhanAllah, may Allah protect the women of Egypt and make them strong in their eman. The thing that really scares me is that the women are being taught that Islam justifies the way they are being treated. How easy is it for them to turn away from Islam if they believe it is the status of women?

May Allah protect them.