please brothers lets try to first work on ourselves and becoming better people before we openly critisize each other.

salaammu alaykum

The 2nd quote, im not sure what its talking about here, but i think theyr making a point about how Extremism is coming from specific places…and in that quote, i think that theyr saying theyr being taught by Deobandis…which the website believe are the likes of Taliban.

Allahu Aalam.

While the Sunnis accept wholeheartedly Prophet Muhammad as the last Hazrat. The Shiites do not accept this doctrine. They revere Ali who was Muhammad’s cousin and son-in-law. Just a week ago, I was listening to a news story from Iraq through America’s National Public Radio (NPR). In the news piece that described the funeral of some Shiites men killed by Iraqi insurgency (mostly done by Sunnis), the bereaving men where reciting the Kalima repeatedly. However, the thing that struck me the most was the following: The Shiite men were reciting only the first part of Kalmia Tayib while ignoring the second part, which says that Muhammad is God’s Rasul (the last prophet). This had been a bone of contention amongst Shiites. The Sunnis hate Shiites for their non-belief in Muhammad.

The Sunday Telegraph

British Muslims ordered to adopt Taliban teachings
By Julian West and Jo Knowsley
(Filed: 27/07/1997) (p. 13)

Thousands of young British Muslims are being indoctrinated into the Taliban, the hard-line Islamic sect which believes women are the source of evil. The young men study at British mosques and religious colleges, learning the laws of the Deobandi sect, a political branch of Islam that formed the basis of the Taliban movement in Afghanistan.

Clearly not a reliable resource. I do agree with you about respecting scholars though, I think the owners of the site would do well to take your advice.

i suggest you read it, possibly not all of it, cos its long, but atleast half…i hope u reach the area where it talks about how the government started funding them…and how they killed so many. And then they say ‘Sufism’ is the ‘new’ sect!!! Sufism is traditional Islam…the Islam of the Prophet PBUH.
I dont know what the ppl on the website follow, but i really learnt from them. Also u might want to look at the other sections on the side!

And plz, ppl who disrespect scholars…doesnt Islam teach us that we must respect others..give them so many excuses…let alone a Scholar who has dedicated his whole life for Islam and the Ummah, and then sum idiot goes along and calls him something! If you disagree with him, atleast say it in a more respectful manner, and open ur heart to hear the other side!!!!
May Allah SWT guide us all.

And linking to MuslimWakeUp and PMU kinda shocked me. Now I know where you stand.

InshaAllah I invite you to check out this lecture:
What is the Purpose of Life
by Shaykh Khalid Yasin

May Allah (swt) have mercy upon you and guide you.

>I don’t know who you worship, since you think a >person like me or other people worship humans.

worship in Islam is not limited to motions on a rug, tasbih, or fasting but encompasses public acts. This whole line of defense is *exactly* the same one non-Muslims use when claiming they don’t worship Bush, Republicans, or their priests and rabbis. However, Allah (swt) is above all this, and has answered this in the Quran:

“They have taken their rabbis and priests as lords other than God, and the Messiah, son of Mary; and they were commanded to worship none but One God. There is no god but He, glory be to Him above what they associate with Him!” (5:31)

thru this hadeeth:

Uday was one of the leaders of his tribe, and his father, Haatim Al-Taa’i, was famous for his generosity. ‘Uday then proceeded to Madina and the people there began talking about his coming. When he entered upon the Messenger of Allah, sallAllahu ‘alayhi wasallam, he was wearing a silver cross around his neck; the Messenger of Allah, sallAllahu ‘alayhi wasallam, was reciting the verse “They took their Rabbis and Priests as lords besides Allah”. When he heard this
‘Uday said: “They did not worship them”. He (the Prophet) replied:

“Yes they did. They (the Rabbis and Priests) made what was Halal into Haram for them, and what was Haram into Halal for them, and they (the people) followed them; THAT was their worshipping them”.
——————–
So if your “sheikh” or “scholar” makes it halal for you to join the kuffar in a campaign in killing and occupying Muslims, you may as well publicly say you worship him, since this hadeeth and that ayah give you permission to do so (as long as your all knowing scholar agrees).

Speaking of which, publicly introducing yourself as someone who has “advised” the White House before the bombing and invasion of Afghanistan and getting funded by the British govt. for a roadshow is not enough, I would then defer to these links:

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jun2004/musl-j03.shtml

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,564960,00.html

http://www.muslimwakeup.com/main/archives/2004/09/the_voice_of_go.php

http://pmunadebate.blogspot.com/2006/12/british-muslim-program.html

Nice set of excuses to sidestep ever answering the questions.

regards,
K

Kevin on June 11, 2007 at 1:54 pm said:

>Kevin, why are you living in America, if you have >some harsh beliefs?

Born and raised here, as was my father and grandfather who fought in WWII. Very nice way to evade the original question and issues raised. Any time frame for getting those questions answered?

as for the stuff about making up sites to attack “scholars” I do consider that a valid point but would urge one point of distinction. If the site is made up to attack the person, his/her looks, race, gender, or ethnicity than it is wrong Islamically.

However if the site is done to call into question public and political ACTS that one has said and done, especially when these PUBLIC actions are being used to help sell and justify a policy of invasion, murder, and colonialism than not only does one have a right but a duty to question this in any manner that they see fit, since “enjoining the good and forbidding the evil” is something that all of the prophets in history have done.

regards,
K

the questions you asked were to the “hamza worshippers”. I worship Allah not a man.

I don’t know who you worship, since you think a person like me or other people worship humans.

Apparently you haven’t heard Shaykh Hamza in a while, becuase you would have gotten your answers since 2004. Everyone knows that Shaykh Hamza is doesn’t agree with Bush nor has ever been an advisor to the government for years.

So who are some of the scholars you worship? Albani? Fawzaan? Bin Laden? Zawahiri? Awlaki?