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The Most Classical and Most Authentic Nasheed Ruined!

UPDATE: I apologized for my harsh tone in this post here.

Warning: contains music.

Asalamualykum wa Rahamatullahi wa Barakatuh to the brothers of Raef Music,

I appreciate your attempt to try to do a remix of one of the most well known, most classical and most authentic poem praising the beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), but the reality is you completely ruined it. It was like Kid Rock singing the Burda or Ricky Martin singing Allah hu Allah hu. I’m not trying to be mean. I’m just being straight up.

Please take the video down. Thank you.

JazakAllah khair.

Ma’salaama,
MR


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  • 44 Responses for "The Most Classical and Most Authentic Nasheed Ruined!"

    1. FATWA June 19th, 2008 at 2:45 am

      This instrument is FORBIDDEN. YOU ARE SPREAD HARRAM. Please delete this post.

    2. Farooq June 19th, 2008 at 8:05 am

      Lets see what would happen if you played that song to the Prophet pbuh or Abu Bakr or Umar may Allah be pleased with them. You would get your but wooped.

    3. Omar June 19th, 2008 at 10:41 am

      I kinda like it actually 😛

      Atleast they arent singing about something really bad. Its the Yusuf Islam version of the song, isn’t it? I would like to hear an emotional riff mid-way, but hey.

      Anyway, Music being haram or not. I think its cool in some way – its better than being some rock song about sex, drugs or other haram things.

    4. Your brother June 19th, 2008 at 11:05 am

      With all due respect to the difference in opinion of the permissibility of the instruments (that is not an issue i intend to argue here)….

      This is a very bigoted post. Just because you aren’t a fan of rock music, doesnt mean other people don’t appreciate it. T’ala al badru alayna has been sung by many diverse people/groups in different styles including those by Yusuf Islam and more recently Native Deen (both of which i love) – and in many different languages throughout the world. Raef band, a product of a different culture than yours, are just adding their own take on the classic.

      The same criticism you have over this song can be applied to Native Deen’s take on the song, or Yusuf Islam’s, or whoever adds non-arabic lyrics to the song, or who adds instruments to it, etc. All of these in someone’s view can be considered “ruining of this nasheed”.

      With all due respect, i think you should remove this post.

      Your “straight-up”-ness isnt mean, its just narrow-minded.

    5. Stupid June 19th, 2008 at 11:24 am

      @Your brother – Rock Music is trash music (just like how rap is crap music). Whether Muslim or not. I haven’t heard Native Deen sing it, but Yusuf Islam’s version! Come on! It’s straight up a nasheed:

      http://youtube.com/watch?v=3Bh60qLoYRs

      Listen for yourself. You can play this at weddings, at Eid gatherings, etc. You can play this for children to elders and everyone will love it.

      You think you can do this with Muslim Rock Music?

      I agree with what Farooq said. Would the original singers of this poem enjoy this? Would they enjoy Yusuf Islam’s version? Think about it. It’s not that hard.

    6. Your brother June 19th, 2008 at 11:40 am

      @ Stupid: You are a bigot.

      You think the original singers of this poem have ever heard of rock music? Think about it. its not that hard.

    7. Abdullah June 19th, 2008 at 11:48 am

      @ Stupid & Your brother,

      You’re both idiots. Shut up and go away.

      oh and @ Fatwa, you’re a moron, go crawl back under the rock you came from.

    8. asdkfj June 19th, 2008 at 12:39 pm

      why are you singling out these brothers on your blog and embarrassing them? Aren’t there hundreds of more people who sing this poem with instruments, though they may be more traditional. Nusrat fateh ali khan used harmonium when singing Allahu for years. Shouldn’t we advise people with more wisdom? Is telling these brothers that ” you completely ruined it” and that they sound like ricky martin or kid rock (not thru a private message but on your blog for everyone to see) going to make them put down their instruments and start reading Quran for the sake of Allah?
      the bottom line is that all you’re doing is trying to embarrass these brothers in public.

    9. MR June 19th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

      To asdkfj:

      The only other versions of the poem I heard are from Raihan, Yusuf Islam and Native Deen. I have never heard any other versions (other than the typical non-instrumental version).

      Private messaging doesn’t work nowadays. You can private message anyone and they’ll either delete or don’t reply or reply and don’t do anything. An example would be MSA National. So many people tried to discuss MSA National with the MSA Executive, but yet it failed. Then when Maniac Muslim, Jinnzaman and myself blogged about MSA National being dead, dramatic changes were seen: A new website, new programs, new magazine, etc.

      I’m not singling out them, but they are the only people who have ruined the song in my opinion that I have seen and heard.

      Did I embarrass them? No. They performed this song in front of hundreds of people. They recorded it on YouTube and put it up. In your own words, they are embarrassing themselves. They publicly displayed it for anyone to comment and critique. This is what I’m doing. I’m commenting and critiquing it. You don’t have to agree with me. They don’t have to agree with me. They don’t even have to take it down. Allah (swt) has given everyone the free will to decide.

    10. jibs June 19th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

      woa – why is everyone yelling?

      I thought this was too loud for this song – perhaps they could tone the music a bit down so we can hear the words? I don’t think its fair to say they ruined it…it’s just a differnt genre of music. On that same youtube link, I found a link to this remix of the same song , which i like much better

      what do you think (especially MR?)

    11. jibs June 19th, 2008 at 4:39 pm

      oops forgot the link lol

    12. MR June 19th, 2008 at 7:17 pm

      jibs – that YouTube video is much better than the one I posted.

    13. Ahmad June 19th, 2008 at 9:52 pm

      I don’t understand the outrage at this song.
      I personally don’t like rock music, but that doesn’t mean I should declare this particular song HARAM. Doing so would be biased. The guy ‘Your brother’ is correct in both of his posts.

      @Abdullah: Learn to make rational and contributive responses, then reply.

      What’s more important about any song is the words and message. In a way they are spreading Da’wah by incorporating Islam with Western culture.

      Anyway, in general, just because you didn’t like how the music turned out, doesn’t mean you should make statements such as how this song is a mockery to Islam.

    14. Musa Franco June 19th, 2008 at 10:37 pm

      I would like to know who hear is qualified to talk about their own opinion about Islam when they don’t have any ijazahs. That’s like me deciding to talk about Heart Surgery. I am not qualified to speak about heart surgery. If you qoute a fiqh opinion then that is different. But don’t say it is ok because x, y and z. Rather bring the proofs from quran and sunnah.

      Ma’Salaam

      May Allah guide you as well as myself…..

      Amin

    15. Musa Franco June 19th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

      The classical commentator of the quran mujahid considered music to be that which allah describes in the quran as he will misguode them with voice. He said voice was music.

    16. Your sister June 19th, 2008 at 11:43 pm

      Honestly I wouldnt say it ruined the nasheed but rock is alittle unfit for that specif nasheed. Music is a hot topic everywhere in Islam. To umm some other people (not embarassing you) just giving you some guidance if you want it of course, you shouldnt just say mean things like “crawl back under the rock you came from” or go away. You should try being alittle umm nicer perhaps. Explain to them why or what your trying to say. Not so harsh lol.

      Your sister
      Salaam

    17. Sidi Taha June 20th, 2008 at 4:25 am

      Mr no disrespect akhi, but i would class music you like and put on ur blog as HARAAM like halal remix and so on.
      like this song i dont agree with it all, but you cant say what u like and dislike due to your choice of music.

      Any way as always im sure this will turn in to something VERY long.

      As’salaamAlikoum

    18. wicked June 20th, 2008 at 6:04 am

      I love it mashAllah. I think the guy has a good voice…and it really goes well mashAllah.

      Wud u be happy to see them playing to sum rock music lyrics, or wud u be happier to see them using their rock interest into sumthin like this..?

      I think they shud keep up their work!

    19. Sista June 20th, 2008 at 9:04 am

      I personally LOVE this rock twist to the song. Saw them preform it live at one of the concerts they opened for Outlandish! AMAZING stuff MashAllah. Keep up the great work guys. MR just gave you guys free publicity and some new fans!

    20. MR June 20th, 2008 at 11:06 am

      @Sidi Taha – im not talking about the haramness of the video or the song. im talking about taking such a traditional and authentic nasheed dating back to the Prophet (saas) and completely destroying it with some crappy rock music beat.

      @wicked – they do have other songs on their MySpace that have “Islamically’ themed lyrics to it. i have nothing against that. my point is you dont take tala al badru alayna and drop it on a rock track or a hip hop track.

      @Sisa – your right. whenever someone googles’ their band, my blog post will come up. more clicks for me! thanks to all the raef music fans out there! support MR!

    21. Ahmed London June 20th, 2008 at 11:36 am

      Are all american muslims like this ? who has ever heard of islamic rock might as well pave the way for Death metal islamic rock by the looks of it. slowly muslims are making excuses for prohibited actions within islam , Now muslims are giving thumbs up to trash music what happened to correcting others mistakes? If you seriously think about this is this the teaching our beloved prophet (saw) left us behind?

      Abu Musa Ash’ari (R.A.) narrates that Rasulallah (Sallallahu Alayhii Wassallam) said, “Qiyamah will come , When people blatantly follow their passions and whims

      Abdullah Ibn Mas’ood (R.A.) when he inquired from Rasulallah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wassallam) about the Signs of Qiyamah.

      -Music and musical instruments will be found in every home.
      – The Masjid will be decorated, but the hearts of the people will be devoid of guidance

      one of the signs of judgement coming is that , Knowledge will be taken away (by the death of people of knowledge), and ignorance will prevail.

    22. Nihal Khan June 20th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

      haha…..

      lol, next thing you see is this poem in bhangra 😀

    23. moh June 21st, 2008 at 8:22 pm

      Wow, this is actually pretty nice – I like rock music much more than rap/hip hop and, MR, with all due respect to your opinion…its just your opinion.

      They have every right to post and do what they want as long as it isn’t haram, just as you have every right to respond.

      MR, when you say “please take it down”, that is where you crossed the line – you can say what you want about how u think they ruined it, or whatever, but no , they don’t have to take it down….

      People of Raef Music, if you are reading this, I congratulate you and encourage you to keep making music – your other songs on your myspace page are pretty good too.

      Mohammed M

    24. Uthman June 21st, 2008 at 11:17 pm

      To all those that are criticizing the people who say that music is haram. You do know that these people have thousands of years of fatwas from some of the greatest scholars in the world behind them right?

      I mean saying something like “keep your opinion about music to yourself” is basically saying “I know you have a lot of proof that music is haram, while I have very little that it is halal, but I still want to listen to it”

    25. jibs June 21st, 2008 at 11:36 pm

      @Uthman : I don’t think the issue is if its halal or haram – I think its dumb for either side to criticize the other – because both opinions have merits and scholarly backing… I think the issue here is a matter of taste..

      The issue I think is if think Kind of music should be played with this kind of song..

      .

    26. AnOther SisteR June 22nd, 2008 at 5:33 am

      Rock is soo not fitting the song. Look, even Native Deen, who are supposed to be hip hop singers changed their way of singing and adapted to the song.. simply because it’s not just ANY song.

      BTW Tala’al Bedru Alayna is so beautiful MashAllah, it doesnt need any instruments to go with.

    27. radf June 22nd, 2008 at 5:25 pm

      That was pretty scary, kind of made my ears bleed.
      So sad to hear such a beautiful nasheed being ripped up- eerr rocked out to? Who knows, I juss think that people need to stop trying to modernize nasheeds.

    28. biryani June 22nd, 2008 at 5:38 pm

      that was revolting…

      from a purely secular/artistic/musical POV – it was just terrible

      aside from that, adding in that this is such a classic nasheed and given islam’s view on music, it was absolutely repulsive.

      http://muslimmatters.org/2008/05/14/the-end-of-music/

    29. mujahid7ia June 22nd, 2008 at 6:01 pm

      I agree with “biryani” above me wholeheartedly.

    30. ReggaePoweredDC2 June 23rd, 2008 at 3:01 pm

      I saw these guys open for Outlandish in NY a week ago at the MAS Concert. I liked most of their stuff, but like you, didn’t like their remix to this Nasheed.

    31. Ali Qazi June 23rd, 2008 at 7:33 pm

      All the opinions that are in favor of this or against this are not impartial. Everyone has different taste in music.

      But the blog entry is ridiculous as MR has horrible taste in music(in my non-impartial opinion) and he is unfit to critique any kind of music let alone sling mud on a decent member of our community that’s trying to promote virtues.

    32. MR June 23rd, 2008 at 7:44 pm

      Ali Qazi – I don’t listen to music other than dhikr which is purely Arabic and with no instruments or the duff.

      I may have listened to music in the past, but alhamdulillah I have stopped.

      Any type of hip hop or rock or any other crazy genre that remixes such a classical nasheed like Tala al Badru Alayna is a disgrace to those who oringally sang it. I dare you to play it for Sh. Hamza or Dr. Umar Faruq Abdullah and see what they have to say.

      Allah knows best.

    33. Ali Qazi June 23rd, 2008 at 7:57 pm

      “Any type of hip hop or rock or any other crazy genre that remixes such a classical nasheed like Tala al Badru Alayna is a disgrace to those who oringally sang it.”

      and that brings us back to the same point as someone’s already made, which is why single these brothers out, this nasheed has gone from one “crazy” genre to another, why arent you condemning everyone from native deen, yusuf islam to 786, to me their genre is just as crazy as Raef’s.

      isnt it all subjective?

    34. MR June 23rd, 2008 at 7:57 pm

      Here is a MUCH better “rock” version of Tala al Badru Alayna:



      The person who did this one didn’t ruin it. Kept it classical.

    35. Ali Qazi June 23rd, 2008 at 8:07 pm

      its the same guy, this one is just an acoustic version

    36. aamer khan June 23rd, 2008 at 8:18 pm

      MR- its the same thing….same singer, same guitar.

    37. MR June 23rd, 2008 at 8:27 pm

      There is a big difference between Sami Yusuf, Native Deen, 786, Yusuf Islam’s version than the Raef’s Music one. You can clearly hear it if you listen to them all.

      Tala al Badru Alayna isn’t just any type of poem. It’s THE poem of the people who built Madinah, the city of the beloved (saas). Sami Yusuf, Native Deen, Yusuf Islam and the rest of the singers from 100s of years ago up till today kept within its classical and traditional while ‘remixing’ it. The acoustic version that the one brother did was fine, but I don’t like it when the entire band did it. It kills the very theme that all the other artists kept including the ‘sonofthenile’ one.

    38. Sista June 24th, 2008 at 1:34 am

      MR your opinions about Sami Yusuf, Native Deen and the rest of the muslim artists is bias. You onlu post things you personally have issues with. Go ahead and play this for a few imams, i am sure they would have less of a problem with it and more of a problem of how you are putting them out. Its not very Islamic in my opinion. I dont recall the Prophet making public announcements calling out the people in his ummah for things he felt were wrong doings. ur approach is extremely wrong and offensive to your readers.

    39. doodoo tanda June 24th, 2008 at 1:37 am

      MR: my opinion is that frankly you are stubborn and arrogant. your argument has no basis other than your opinion…so stop trying to connect it to halal and haram and sheikhs and other scholars because that’s not the issue. and dont dare ppl to show it to some sheikhs. that’s dumb because its hypothetical and you talk as if it’s a threat. that doesnt make your accusations more “authentic” – rather, it shows how immature and weak your argument is. if you have an opinion, it should just BE your opinion. no need to argue needlessly with commenters because you are just talking, like everyone else. and no need to tell them to take it down.

      and about the thing that sonofthenile is the same as the raef band – its true. sorry to say but ur “save” in the comment above was lame. again, it weakens your argument.

      please grow up and be mellow, not on fire. im keepin it real and straight up, not tryina attack you as a person because i do not know who you are. im really addressing the principle and maturity of this post. there is always an intelligent and respectful way to argue out something. but when you are initially rude, you give the okay for everyone to be the same.

      take care

    40. pik June 24th, 2008 at 9:11 am

      Bro, I saw you and the other guys from gandaghee perform …. and yes! it was without music…. but give me a break, you think that was more ‘islamic’ than this? The only reason why people liked the halal mix tape stuff is because they know the original songs with the dirty words… like ‘sunnah-back’ instead of ‘sexy-back’ . You are sooo contradicting yourself its not even funny… esp when you say that the acoustic version is ok and the electric guitar version isn’t…cmon now…i mean, cmon now – what’s up with that?

    41. MR June 24th, 2008 at 10:51 am

      You guys are totally missing the point. I am not saying whether this is Islamic or not. I am not saying whether it is halal or not.

      I am saying that this SPECIFIC poem by the founding people of Madinah is special and sacred to Islam. In MY PERSONAL opinion it should not be remixed the way Raef music did as a group together. The way they did it with the one brother in the acoustic version clearly is different than when they did it together.

      Let me say this clearly one more time. THIS IS MY OPINION. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE. It’s not like I’m passing a fatwa on these guys. I said there other stuff on their MySpace page is totally fine with me. I have no beef with that.

      I keeping saying this over and over. It’s just this one specific song Tala al Badru Alayna is very special to me personally and I personally believe that it should be kept special and traditional.

      JazakAllah khair. May Allah (swt) forgive me and grant you all with the highest jannah and allow you all to drink from the hand of the Prophet (saas). Ameen!

    42. Stupid June 24th, 2008 at 11:03 am

      MR Haters + comments + more haters = $$$ for MR

      Man, I wish I could blog my opinions and make money off the haters. LOL.

      The final solution to all the hating:

      http://islamqa.com/en/ref/5000/music

      Since that’s a “salafi” site, check out what Sh. Nuh (a sufi) has to say about Music:
      http://www.halaltube.com/nuh-ha-meem-keller/music-in-islam

      So regardless of whether they ruined the song Tala al Badru Alayna, from what the MAJORITY OPINION of scholars (Hanafi, Shafi, Maliki, Hanbali, as well as the Shia: Jafari), the instrument used in the music video is prohibited.

      So MR your wrong for posting this. MR’s haters are wrong for supporting it.

      Khalas!

      Justice has been served!

      Allah hu Akbar!

    43. Ali Qazi June 24th, 2008 at 2:20 pm

      @stupid

      more money for MR is a good thing, he’s still our guy, just like raef is our guy

      more power to all of them inshallah

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