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Would Malcolm X support Barack Obama?

I’m sure many of you have heard about the news lately. I don’t need to bring it up here. It got be thinking though, would Malcolm X (rah.) support Barack Obama? Based on his lectures, articles and autobiography that we have from his legacy, one can assume that after he performed Hajj he was open and relax on his views of White Americans and non-Muslim Black Americans.

In my own personal opnion, I think he’d be just like Imam Siraj or Imam Zaid or any of the Black American Muslim leaders we have today.  I think he’d also be extremely critical and question Obama on all his motives and moves.

What do you think?


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    1. h. ahmed November 20th, 2008 at 7:05 pm

      In my own personal opnion, I think he’d be just like Imam Siraj or Imam Zaid or any of the Black American Muslim leaders we have today. I think he’d also be extremely critical and question Obama on all his motives and moves.

      There was no need to start off that sentence with “in my own personal opinion” … obviously its your opinion!!! ( haha, read this: http://www.hahmed.com/blog/2008/11/20/top-10-most-irritating-phrases-plus-steve-carrells-most-annoying-expressions/ ). 😛

      Anyways – to say he would be just like any of the Black American Muslim leaders is very vague – as our blackamerican Muslim leaders are very diverse.

      All I strongly believe is that he would be similar to Imam Zaid in that he would be on the forefront of leading our community and responding to issues that American Muslims face, and offer a strong dissenting opinion to all of America’s injustices. And instead of just complaining from the sidelines he would strongly be involved in community activism. He would probably be an Obama supporter – not a blind supporter – but an optimistic agent of change :)

    2. Nu'man November 20th, 2008 at 8:39 pm

      Malcolm X was never a Black Muslim Leader he was an African-American Leader. Even after he came back from the Hajj he spoke on platforms which address all African -Americans, not only Muslim-Americans.

      He spoke out against Vietnam well before it was fashionable to do so. He spoke out against the War in Vietnam while when he was with the Nation of Islam and after he returned from Hajj. Imam Zaid Shakir couldn’t even offer a sqeak during the build to the Iraq invasion in 2003…his silence was very load. So I think you are insulting Malcolm X when you compare him to IZS.

      Also Malcolm was not an Islamist. He was a muslim but his politics was not any version of Islamism. There are no reference to the Prophet, suhaba and companioins even after he returned from Hajj.

      Nu’man

    3. Hamza November 21st, 2008 at 12:05 am

      This topic is a good thing to think of, but not a public discussion because then u have ignorant people that make ignorant comments, for example his ‘non-reference of Prophet Muhammad SAW’ from Nu’man above. One example is the Hadith: ‘No man has believed perfectly until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself.’ which made Malcolm search Islam deeper and re-think his thoughts.

      Brother Malik was a man whose thinking was always un-expected. With most Muslim leaders today (in America) we know what they are going to say or do.

      Another difference between Brother Malik and many Black Muslim American leaders today was the unity of Islam on a global scale. In the last 2 years of his life, he spent more time outside of America in Middle East and Africa. He was all about bringing Islamic/Non-Islamic issues on a global scale and bringing global issues to the WEST. For example what American leader, Muslim or non spoke out about the Zionist occupation of Palestine other than Malcolm??? NOBODY

      But he had very little knowledge of Islam because of his untimely death. And even if he had little knowledge he could have still been a Great Leader for our Ummah, just look at the example of Khalid ibn Walid. He used to make so many mistakes in Salaat and only had a few short Surah’s memorized and still recited them wrong.

      The point is we cannot say HE COULD HAVE BEEN THIS OR THAT. Lets forget Obama, because we have much more bigger things to worry about in our Deen than him.
      We will never know what he could have been and can NEVER compare him to who we think he could have been.

      Wasalaam,

      PS: IS IT ME OR THIS PAGE LIKE THE OBAMA UPDATE NEWS PAGE. I FIND OUT MORE ABOUT HIM AND WHAT HES DOING AND GOING ON HIS LIFE THEN I DO ABOUT BROTHERS AND SISTERS STARVING IN MUSLIM LANDS (WHICH ARE ON THE NEWS NOW, JUST LOOK AT PAKISTAN)

      COME ON BROTHER MR, THERES MUCH MORE NEWS TO COVER, I WOULDNT BE SURPRISED IF TOMORROW THERE IS A POST ABOUT HIS SELECTION OF HILLARY AS SECRETARY OF STATE!!!

    4. MR November 21st, 2008 at 12:15 am

      @Hamza – Regarding your PS statement, there are tons of sites where you can find the information and new you are looking for. I know there are Muslims suffering all around the world. Posting on my blog will not make it better. Making dua will make it better. Donating money will make it better. My blog has no means to do what dua can do. So let us all make dua instead.

    5. Mas'ud Ahmed Khan November 21st, 2008 at 2:55 am

      The question to ask would be – would Obama have been difference if Malcolm had been alive today? I think that Malcolm would have been a much greater influence on the African Americans and US politics if he has been alive all this time.

    6. Nu'man November 21st, 2008 at 3:50 am

      Hamza,

      I don’t appreciate the ignorance remark.

      I’m just stating facts.

      Malcolm X’s policy was not Islamist. In his later speeches there are no reference to Islamist discourse. Whether this discourse is expressed by a moderate (IZS) or so-called extremist (Osama Bin Laden) – there is no appeal to supposed early Islam in Malcolm’s speeches even after he returned from Hajj. He was inspired by Third World independent movements and not some Islamist version of the polity of the Prophet, the first four Caliphs and the companions. He called the last group he set up the Organisation of African-American Unity (OAAU).

      Hamza you are simply imposing your own politics on Malcolm X. Once again to associate IZS with Malcolm X is completely incorrect and quite insulting.

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      […] Muslim bloggers (Mujahideen Ryder, Umar Lee) have argued that Malcolm X would have voted for Barack Obama simply because he was a […]

    8. zabi November 21st, 2008 at 4:14 pm

      nu’man

      define the word islamist from your own point of view.

    9. Abu Yusuf November 21st, 2008 at 6:46 pm

      His speech on House Negro vs. Field Negro.

    10. Abu Dharr November 21st, 2008 at 9:56 pm

      I agree with Masud Ahmed Khan on this issue – ie:

      The question to ask would be – would Obama have been difference if Malcolm had been alive today? I think that Malcolm would have been a much greater influence on the African Americans and US politics if he has been alive all this time.

    11. Hamza November 21st, 2008 at 10:06 pm

      Nu’man, tell me one thing; HOW CAN MALCOLM COME BACK TO AMERICA AND GIVE DAWAH FROM A SO CALLED ‘ISLAMIST’ (WHATEVER THAT MEANS, BUT IM USING ISLAMIC) POINT OF VIEW?
      IT WOULD NOT EVEN WORK, AMERICANS WERE NOT READY FOR IT. HE WENT SLOW WITH IT. JUST LOOK AT THE EXAMPLE OF IMAM WD MUHAMMAD, ALTHOUGH IM NOT COMPARING BROTHER MALCOLM TO HIM AT ALL.
      AND U MUST REMEMBER, HIS JOB BEFORE HE BECAME A MUSLIM WAS A CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER, AND HIS JOB WHEN HE DIED WAS A CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER, SO WHATS WRONG WITH MAKING OAAU.

      BUT HE WAS A MUSLIM UNTIL THE DAY HE BECAME A SHAHEED. JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS A DOCTOR OR BUSINESS OWNER DOESNT MEAN HE IS GOING TO ONLY DO SURGURY ON MUSLIMS OR ONLY SELL HALAL MEAT.

      THERE IS NO POINT IN ARGUING WITH U, BECAUSE U STILL CLAIM HE WAS NOT MOVED BY THE QURAN AND SUNNAH. WHY DID HE GROW HIS BEARD WHEN HE CAME BACK FROM HAJJ?

      MR – I DONT COME TO YOUR SITE TO READ ABOUT POOR MUSLIM CHILDREN OR LEARN DUAS FOR THEM, IT WAS AN EXAMPLE.

      YOUR SITE WAS ABOUT NEWS AFFECTING THE MUSLIMS LIVING IN AMERICA THAT WAS TAKEN OVER WITH AN OBAMA FRENZY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF YOUR RECENT POSTS 7 OF 10 HAVE TO DO WITH OBAMA, BUT YOUR 10 MOST COMMENTED ARTICLES DONT EVEN TALK ABOUT HIM. BUT ITS OK BROTHER, I UNDERSTOOD YOUR NICE COMMENT. I WILL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. JAZAKALLAH FOR THE GREAT PAST POSTS. MAY ALLAH REWARD U GREATLY FOR THE GREAT JOB U HAVE DONE.

      ASALAAMU ALAYKUM

    12. Nu'man November 22nd, 2008 at 10:04 am

      Hamza,

      There is NO history of Malcolm X giving da’wah – read his speeches – the vast majority of his speeches before and after leaving the Nation of Islam or before and after going to the Hajj are about political and social oppresion and he usually talked about these two issue with an empirical and historical context. He never, let me emphasise this NEVER talked about the condition of the African-American within an Islamist context i.e with references to the Prophet, Sunnah, Companions.

      The rational point you make which one can rationally dispute with is that there are many millions of muslims who god-willing will die Muslims but is NOT Islamist.

      You then write “THERE IS NO POINT IN ARGUING WITH U, BECAUSE U STILL CLAIM HE WAS NOT MOVED BY THE QURAN AND SUNNAH.”

      I did not not state this – if I had your mentality I’d call you a liar.

    13. Nu'man November 22nd, 2008 at 11:09 am

      “BECAUSE U STILL CLAIM HE WAS NOT MOVED BY THE QURAN AND SUNNAH. WHY DID HE GROW HIS BEARD WHEN HE CAME BACK FROM HAJJ?”

      What type of point is this – let me answer my own question – only a wahhabite can reason like this!

      So are you saying that when he shaved off some of his beard and left a goatie he was less moved by the Qur’an and Sunnah?

    14. SaqibSaab November 23rd, 2008 at 12:18 pm

      I asked Imam Suhaib about this when he came to Chicago for Sacred Scrolls, AlMaghrib’s 40 Hadith Nawawi class. He said he didn’t know exactly, but he thought he’d be beyond anything we’ve got now.

      Malcolm was huge. Us Muslims, end of the day, are small time.

    15. Nu'man November 23rd, 2008 at 2:33 pm

      Saqib, you make a correct point about not knowing whether Malcolm X would have ever supported Obama – no one will ever know this.

      But what we easily can know is that Malcolm was not a political Islamist. Malcolm was not a follower of Wahhabite – these are facts. Malcolm did not walk round in desert gard with ankle-length pants in New York. He was a Muslim but his politics was not Islamists. There is nothing in Malcolm’s speeches before or after he left the nation of Islam or before or after he made the hajj which go on about how the Prophet, Qur’an, Sunnah or Companions.

      Malcolm X’s prime concern was the upliftment of his people (African-Americans) from political, economic and social oppresion – this is a fact – read his speeches. And who is this Imam Suhaib? Has he read any Malcolm X’s speeches? You should read Malcolm for yourself and make your own mind up. There is no need to go to a theologian about something which he probably knows nothing of.

      Nu’man

    16. zabi November 23rd, 2008 at 4:29 pm

      Why do you keep saying Islamist?

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