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	<title>Comments on: Deen Tight &#8211; Hip Hop &amp; Islam Documentary</title>
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		<title>By: Mona</title>
		<link>http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2008/12/13/deen-tight-hip-hop-islam-documentary/comment-page-1/#comment-161321</link>
		<dc:creator>Mona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with everything brother chuah has said.Music is forbidden in islam and the scholars of ahul sunnah wal jamaat have  clearly stated that music is not premissble in islam.It may seem like these brothers are doing something positive but their not...if anything their promoting music and their also  misleading alota ppl especially muslims.Y cant they just give dawah the halal way..music is unneccesary! If they sincerly wanted to give dawah for Allah&#039;s sake they wuld please Allah and leave of music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with everything brother chuah has said.Music is forbidden in islam and the scholars of ahul sunnah wal jamaat have  clearly stated that music is not premissble in islam.It may seem like these brothers are doing something positive but their not&#8230;if anything their promoting music and their also  misleading alota ppl especially muslims.Y cant they just give dawah the halal way..music is unneccesary! If they sincerly wanted to give dawah for Allah&#8217;s sake they wuld please Allah and leave of music.</p>
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		<title>By: Silent Reader</title>
		<link>http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2008/12/13/deen-tight-hip-hop-islam-documentary/comment-page-1/#comment-129616</link>
		<dc:creator>Silent Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spotted two folks, one being an Imam at a local masjid here and another a DJ that are both from San Diego. Heck the DJ even performed at a MSA banquet at my university. Weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spotted two folks, one being an Imam at a local masjid here and another a DJ that are both from San Diego. Heck the DJ even performed at a MSA banquet at my university. Weird.</p>
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		<title>By: chuah</title>
		<link>http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2008/12/13/deen-tight-hip-hop-islam-documentary/comment-page-1/#comment-129364</link>
		<dc:creator>chuah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im sorry.. i think i did not clarify what i meant...in the previous post i was talking about two specific communities the afro-caribbean and african communities. If you actually lived with these two groups you would notice the poverty which is claimed by statistical measures or the LICO method is not in anyway equal to the real poverty faced by people through out the third world. so called poor people in canada are driving cars, got food to eat, good clothes to wear...and just because they earn a specific rate calculated by statscan which is under a line they picked dont mean those 2 groups are subjugated by the system or a higher echelon of society. 

although this sounds like a right wing talk, im in no way a right or left but its clear to see that there are other issues causing the rise of violence in those two communities specifically, and i think one of those issues is definitely hiphop...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im sorry.. i think i did not clarify what i meant&#8230;in the previous post i was talking about two specific communities the afro-caribbean and african communities. If you actually lived with these two groups you would notice the poverty which is claimed by statistical measures or the LICO method is not in anyway equal to the real poverty faced by people through out the third world. so called poor people in canada are driving cars, got food to eat, good clothes to wear&#8230;and just because they earn a specific rate calculated by statscan which is under a line they picked dont mean those 2 groups are subjugated by the system or a higher echelon of society. </p>
<p>although this sounds like a right wing talk, im in no way a right or left but its clear to see that there are other issues causing the rise of violence in those two communities specifically, and i think one of those issues is definitely hiphop&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: unconventionally-traditional</title>
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		<dc:creator>unconventionally-traditional</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brother, i think it&#039;s absolutely ridiculous to base the ills of a community, on one commonality. I also come from on Ontario, albe it from a a smaller city then Toronto, but we have the same issues with the youth. It’s definitely not because of the music they chose to listen to. The issues lies way beneath the surface, it&#039;s simplistic of you to ignore all other factors, and concentrate solely on one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brother, i think it&#8217;s absolutely ridiculous to base the ills of a community, on one commonality. I also come from on Ontario, albe it from a a smaller city then Toronto, but we have the same issues with the youth. It’s definitely not because of the music they chose to listen to. The issues lies way beneath the surface, it&#8217;s simplistic of you to ignore all other factors, and concentrate solely on one.</p>
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		<title>By: chuah</title>
		<link>http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2008/12/13/deen-tight-hip-hop-islam-documentary/comment-page-1/#comment-129249</link>
		<dc:creator>chuah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excuse me..my sister in islam

masha allah the word du jour is new to me...i actually had to look it up..see im benefiting some how from this discussion.

back to topic...i understand what you are trying to say and u maybe right to smaller percentage who live under poverty stricken circumstances but i only speak off of what i see with my own eyes. In toronto for example we have the same violence and degradation of women on a smaller scale than the americans but its definitely not due to poverty. most people involved in violence or drug trade are not poor but have one thing in common...Hiphop...conscious or ghetto it all leads to the clothes and the lifestyle....

and i dont see hiphop with a islamic twist doing except adding to the list of styles that only promotes this type of music</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excuse me..my sister in islam</p>
<p>masha allah the word du jour is new to me&#8230;i actually had to look it up..see im benefiting some how from this discussion.</p>
<p>back to topic&#8230;i understand what you are trying to say and u maybe right to smaller percentage who live under poverty stricken circumstances but i only speak off of what i see with my own eyes. In toronto for example we have the same violence and degradation of women on a smaller scale than the americans but its definitely not due to poverty. most people involved in violence or drug trade are not poor but have one thing in common&#8230;Hiphop&#8230;conscious or ghetto it all leads to the clothes and the lifestyle&#8230;.</p>
<p>and i dont see hiphop with a islamic twist doing except adding to the list of styles that only promotes this type of music</p>
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		<title>By: unconventionally-traditional</title>
		<link>http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2008/12/13/deen-tight-hip-hop-islam-documentary/comment-page-1/#comment-129171</link>
		<dc:creator>unconventionally-traditional</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually it&#039;s ukhti not akhi
They escaped the fold of poverty, through whatever remedial talent. Hip hop has ranges just like any other music, conscious style and down right degrading one. They use infectious rhymes and soulful, to get a different message across, one that is obviously not du jour. Subhanalah they’re intention is sincere, but the means, I’m a little iffy about that. I’m definitely not condoning it, and I do believe that their titer tottering on the edge, and sooner or later it would collapse. Music is reflective of someone’s life, what I’m trying to say is that poverty, oppression whatever you want to call it, causes these types of behavior. It’s not hip hop, that’s at the root of the problem, it’s their frustration that stems from the « system » that they believe is a detriment to their well being, and hands them no opportunities,  in other words desperation. It’s an insult to their intelligence, stating that they would believe and act in accordance to whatever song that’s dominating the airwaves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually it&#8217;s ukhti not akhi<br />
They escaped the fold of poverty, through whatever remedial talent. Hip hop has ranges just like any other music, conscious style and down right degrading one. They use infectious rhymes and soulful, to get a different message across, one that is obviously not du jour. Subhanalah they’re intention is sincere, but the means, I’m a little iffy about that. I’m definitely not condoning it, and I do believe that their titer tottering on the edge, and sooner or later it would collapse. Music is reflective of someone’s life, what I’m trying to say is that poverty, oppression whatever you want to call it, causes these types of behavior. It’s not hip hop, that’s at the root of the problem, it’s their frustration that stems from the « system » that they believe is a detriment to their well being, and hands them no opportunities,  in other words desperation. It’s an insult to their intelligence, stating that they would believe and act in accordance to whatever song that’s dominating the airwaves.</p>
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		<title>By: chuah</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>akhi if it was poverty then the people involved in hiphop would not have been able to afford the bling bling and the fancy cars. this type of music has a life style to it...u gotta have the baggy clothes, the ride, abuse women, goto night clubs and so on....those that want to add a islamic twist to hiphop are only kiddin themselves, sooner or later they were either loose their faith or cause considerable damage to other muslims faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>akhi if it was poverty then the people involved in hiphop would not have been able to afford the bling bling and the fancy cars. this type of music has a life style to it&#8230;u gotta have the baggy clothes, the ride, abuse women, goto night clubs and so on&#8230;.those that want to add a islamic twist to hiphop are only kiddin themselves, sooner or later they were either loose their faith or cause considerable damage to other muslims faith.</p>
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		<title>By: unconventionally-traditional</title>
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		<dc:creator>unconventionally-traditional</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brother chuah it&#039;s not hip hop that cause these issues it&#039;s poverty. Hip hop is the message, that springs forth from that desperation, to those kids hip hop becomes &quot;hope&quot;, i think what the brothers in the videos try to do is use hip hop as a medium, to shed light on Islam and lure them in with what their accustomed to listening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brother chuah it&#8217;s not hip hop that cause these issues it&#8217;s poverty. Hip hop is the message, that springs forth from that desperation, to those kids hip hop becomes &#8220;hope&#8221;, i think what the brothers in the videos try to do is use hip hop as a medium, to shed light on Islam and lure them in with what their accustomed to listening.</p>
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		<title>By: chuah</title>
		<link>http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2008/12/13/deen-tight-hip-hop-islam-documentary/comment-page-1/#comment-128955</link>
		<dc:creator>chuah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i had pre-judgments when i saw the sister dj&#039;ing at what looks like a party..so negative images came through my mind right away...but the main concern is the producer talking about hiphop effecting youth...he has to be oblivious to what hiphop is causing in major cities, rise in crime, drug trafficking, women abuse. the negative overwhelmingly out weights any positive this type of music brings.

i wish the brother who produced this film would shed some light into the reasons of producing this documentary...and i would have watched it by now, however its not uploaded in their website</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i had pre-judgments when i saw the sister dj&#8217;ing at what looks like a party..so negative images came through my mind right away&#8230;but the main concern is the producer talking about hiphop effecting youth&#8230;he has to be oblivious to what hiphop is causing in major cities, rise in crime, drug trafficking, women abuse. the negative overwhelmingly out weights any positive this type of music brings.</p>
<p>i wish the brother who produced this film would shed some light into the reasons of producing this documentary&#8230;and i would have watched it by now, however its not uploaded in their website</p>
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		<title>By: A sister</title>
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		<dc:creator>A sister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>none taken here either.

but just to respond to this statement of yours:
&quot;sister i don’t believe brother chuah was trying to slander anyone&quot;

i know he wasnt, alhamdulillah. that&#039;s what i clarified with him. that i wasnt talking about him. i was just worrying about FUTURE posts of hypothetical characters. 

assalaamualaikum warehmatullah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>none taken here either.</p>
<p>but just to respond to this statement of yours:<br />
&#8220;sister i don’t believe brother chuah was trying to slander anyone&#8221;</p>
<p>i know he wasnt, alhamdulillah. that&#8217;s what i clarified with him. that i wasnt talking about him. i was just worrying about FUTURE posts of hypothetical characters. </p>
<p>assalaamualaikum warehmatullah</p>
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