The End - 2000 to 2009

Update: Here is a video from the incident:

News articles:

MADINAH: Madinah Gov. Prince Abdul Aziz bin Majed ordered yesterday the release of all youths under 18 detained in connection with a fight near the Prophet’s Mosque early this week.

The order was issued on the directive of Interior Minister Prince Naif.

The youths are to be released on guarantees from their guardians.

The investigation into the involvement of other detainees in the fight would continue, Col.

Mohsin Al-Radadi, Madinah police spokesman, told Arab News yesterday.

The youths clashed with worshippers at the mosque on Monday evening but there were no casualties.

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Another source claims it was a Sunni vs. Shia fight. The Shia were pilgrims, while the Sunnis were the mutawwa or religious police:

Nine held in clashes at Madinah

RIYADH: Saudi authorities have arrested nine people following clashes at the Prophet Muhammad’s mosque in Madinah, an official said yesterday. Some pilgrims clashed with worshippers at the mosque but there were no casualties, interior ministry spokesman Mansur al-Turki said.
Turki declined to comment on reports on Shia websites that the clashes were sectarian and pitted Shias against Sunnis.
“The security authorities will issue a statement later to clarify what happened, the nationalities of the participants in the fight and their motives, once the investigation is over,” Turki said.
Saudi newspapers have reported that on Friday religious police at a shrine in Madinah clashed with pilgrims, who responded by hurling stones at a police station.
Iran’s Arab-language satellite channel quoted witnesses as saying that on Monday evening two Saudi Shias from Al-Qatif in the oil-rich east of the kingdom were killed and four others wounded by anti-riot police.
Saudi group Human Rights First said religious police had attacked Shia pilgrims in Madinah. They condemned the attack, calling on the government to launch an investigation and bring the perpetrators to justice. – AFP

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I don’t really know where the truth is, but I’ll update as I find reliable sources, inshaAllah.


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  • 19 Responses for "Youth Fighting outside the Prophet’s (s) Mosque in Madinah, Some Arrested"

    1. Yahya February 27th, 2009 at 11:03 am

      Wow, this looks so predictable. I will certainly be interested in hearing the facts and regardless of what they are I’m not going to judge any of the parties involved.

      If indeed it turns out that it was of sectarian motivation, it’s not a surprise that neither side took the upper hand and came up with any other ideas than violence. I’m a shi’i muslim but in no way am I going to blame this on the Saudi, by this point have there not been literally an infinite number of instances of intolerance from individuals on both sides? How can one from either “camp” claim to be outraged at this? Those who bemoan the attack on the shi’a (IF that turns out to be what it was) ought to look closely at how little rights the sunnis and baha’i are given in Iran. Those who blame the shi’a for starting it (IF that turns out to be the case) need not look far either for individuals transgressing standards of morality on behalf of the sunni cause.

      It should be abundantly clear that even IF one party is decisively in error (and people’s understandings of religion isn’t based in subjective phenomena, i.e. how we look at the past, how we interpret texts) then most certainly the Prophet would not have wanted the parties to attack each other.

      Again IF this is sectarian-motivated, it seems these people seem to believe in their sect more than they believe in God. Loyalties to sect might necessitate violence but not loyalty to God, and yet they choose violence.

      This intolerant ideology that is prevalent on both sides (even if THIS event isn’t sectarian-motivated) is out of a desire to make others uniform with oneself. No one is ever going to achieve that, and indeed there is Divine wisdom pointing the opposite direction, as per Qur’an 11.118 and Qur’an 49.13.

      If we see others following islam “Improperly” how about instead of immediately assuming they are wrong (because we know a few hadiths) let us maybe pause to consider that ones relationship to God is sacred and is not about form but about sincerity of devotion.

    2. Mohammed Siddiq February 27th, 2009 at 11:12 am

      Whatever happened to not raising ure voice in the presence of our beloved prophet. The best of creation. ALLAH HU AKBAR.

    3. genieyclo February 27th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

      This is what Ahmed Al-Omran, the famous Saudi (and Shiite) blogger has to say about this:

      I did not want to write about the tension in Madinah over the past few days and the reason is simply because there was no reliable, trusted news sources that I can use to draw any conclusions or make an informed opinion. Mainstream media were sticking to the official story which, as usual, played dumb and pretended that it was no big deal. Websites on both sides, Shia and Sunni, were extremely biased and that was expected considering the sectarian nature of the incidents.

      So what is the truth about the tension in Madinah? I’m not sure if anybody knows.

      But here is what I know: what happened is serious and unacceptable under any circumstances. All parties involved were supposed to respect where they are and exercise some form of self-restraint. The Prophet’s Mosque is Islam’s second most holy site, and the least they could do is to emulate the prophet manners and ideals. Sadly, they all failed to show any respect to this great religion that they claim to represent.

      Now I could delve into some of the disturbing details, or cast blame on either party, or analyse the long lasting effects of these sorry incidents. But I don’t want to do that because it will not make any difference.

      Let me just finish by saying this: I’m truly and deeply ashamed to see what happened in Madinah. It should not have happened, and we must make sure it will not happen again.

      I’m with him here.

    4. chuah February 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

      subhan allah…this is the first i hear of this…so i looked up the news sites and it says this happened on tuesday.

      anyway this is what i found so far, a couple of videos…you can see who are the aggressors…a3oothbillah kids stealing the sand of the top of the grave of fatima radiya allah anha

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_BY39tnOkw
      and
      http://www.alwantv.com/play.php?vid=1353

      they say the women created a distraction outside the baqi3..while they send the men and kids to go steal sand from the grave site..

    5. Nihal Khan February 27th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

      Wait, this kids were trying to unearth the grave?

    6. Hassan February 27th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

      what pilgrimage shias are making? this is Rabi’-ul-awal. Were they trying to desecrate the graves or seek blessings?

    7. stranger February 28th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

      Subhanallah this is really really bad and completely unacceptable. I hope the appropriate precautions will be taken to ensure this doesn’t happen again, ever.

      chuah: do you mean that the women’s salal alan Nabi in the viedo that MR posted were being said as a distraction to facilitate this desecration?

    8. tanveer February 28th, 2009 at 2:57 pm

      They must be fighting as we can only fight in our land not in others.

    9. chuah February 28th, 2009 at 11:44 pm

      @ hassan…i too have no idea what pilgrimage was going on.

      @stranger… it was from a report i read that the women had a mass demonstration outside the grave site….heres the video to show that

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdTVWasDPV8&feature=related

      what was also reported that the demonstration and breaking into the baqi3 took an hour before the police intervened.

    10. hazem March 2nd, 2009 at 7:03 am

      i am with what the religious police has done with those fake muslims.

      All of us that the she’i doctrin urges for cursing the SAHABAH

    11. Dawud Israel March 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm

      I have no idea what is going on here…can someone explain what this was about?

      Just say what happened–not who was to blame, at least.

    12. Redzeb Ghashiyyah March 5th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

      what does the shias shearcging there they are not believers they are mushrik-keen let ALLAH destroy them all bcs they are traitors of ALLAH traitors of ISLAM and traitors of MUhammad s.a.w.s they have their own faith and they have their own Qiblah and that is that f**ed qerbela by MOWAHID-DEEN

    13. Redzeb Ghashiyyah March 5th, 2009 at 12:33 pm

      ALLAHU AKBAR SHARIAH LAW IS GETTING IN THE LAND OF THE MUSLIMINS AND MUSLIMS ARE TRIUMPHING ALLAH IS HELPING THE TRUE BELIEVERS AND I WNNA SAY THAT IF SOMEONE DONT LIKE THE LAW OF ALLAH S.W.T HE IS A DAMMN KAFIR WITH A IJMAAH OF ALL AHLU SUNNAH WEL JEMAAH SCHOOLARS by:MOWAHID-DEEN

    14. zoray March 5th, 2009 at 8:56 pm

      subhanallah, muslim people must respect the grave of the prophet Mohammad s.a.w, wether you are a muslim shi`i or sunni, after all they have nothing to gain whatever the damages they made for it, Allah S.W.T knows best, damaging the prophet`s grave is just a creation of disputes among muslim. May Allah Swt guides you to the right path(shia) you dont know what you did. ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!!

    15. zoray March 5th, 2009 at 9:00 pm

      hope you`ve learnd your lesson, dont do it again(shia) Allah swt will curse you for such doing it again.

    16. Ahlesunnahwarrior March 20th, 2009 at 1:50 pm

      What are mushrik shias doing there?Disrespecting rafidha! By God i would not have allowed them in the two cities if the decision was in my hands!

    17. Shirien March 21st, 2009 at 1:21 am

      lol that was about the worst news story i’ve ever read. it left us more confused then knowing anything at all.

    18. Al-Habeeby April 11th, 2009 at 8:59 am

      they should ban all shia from the Baqee. they are crazy and all they do is wail and cry like hyenas.

    19. muhammad farhan khan July 27th, 2009 at 11:37 am

      All shia’s should be banned to visit baqee.. These shia’s also tried earlier i.e. July 1986-87,, to damage kaaba as well.. Now they pointed towards madina.. These are not muslims & SAUDI athorities must take some action to never allow these kuffar’s to enter macca & madina.. These shia’s are haters of sahaba’s(ra).. Inshallah ALLAH’s curse will be seen on these peoples soon..

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