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		<title>By: Ahmad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not understand why all the talk. There is nothing wrong with working with a non Muslim in Islam, as long as you don&#039;t support anything haram and etcetra.
Btw i need help with a friend on the internet, who is trying to prove Islam wrong. Any Professional Muslim that has as good understanding of English and Islam that can help? This friend is only reachable by online messenger, unless you want to travel to rome.
Sry if i am not supposed to ask these questions on this post, but i dont know anywhere else.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not understand why all the talk. There is nothing wrong with working with a non Muslim in Islam, as long as you don&#8217;t support anything haram and etcetra.<br />
Btw i need help with a friend on the internet, who is trying to prove Islam wrong. Any Professional Muslim that has as good understanding of English and Islam that can help? This friend is only reachable by online messenger, unless you want to travel to rome.<br />
Sry if i am not supposed to ask these questions on this post, but i dont know anywhere else.<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: huzaifa</title>
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		<dc:creator>huzaifa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MR...I agree with asmarani... I believe that comment from anon2 should be removed ... please take care of this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MR&#8230;I agree with asmarani&#8230; I believe that comment from anon2 should be removed &#8230; please take care of this</p>
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		<title>By: The Ghazzali Blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ghazzali Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word used for Friend in that Ayat is a very interesting word. I believe and entire commentary can be written on just that word. And if you know Arabic you know the language likes to say the same thing in different angles.

For example take the word love. How many words in Arabic mean love and why are their so many words that mean love?

But all in we should remember a general overall concept of Islam and that is being balanced. IF we do not even SPEAK to a nonmuslim or have any form of communication (like some brothers who just read the translation to mean &quot;friend&quot;) then how do we do dawah? Similarly there are some Muslims who trust THUGS more than they trust Muslims. These are 2 extremes. 

So when we follow the overall concept of being balanced inshAllah we&#039;ll be right. Ameen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word used for Friend in that Ayat is a very interesting word. I believe and entire commentary can be written on just that word. And if you know Arabic you know the language likes to say the same thing in different angles.</p>
<p>For example take the word love. How many words in Arabic mean love and why are their so many words that mean love?</p>
<p>But all in we should remember a general overall concept of Islam and that is being balanced. IF we do not even SPEAK to a nonmuslim or have any form of communication (like some brothers who just read the translation to mean &#8220;friend&#8221;) then how do we do dawah? Similarly there are some Muslims who trust THUGS more than they trust Muslims. These are 2 extremes. </p>
<p>So when we follow the overall concept of being balanced inshAllah we&#8217;ll be right. Ameen</p>
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		<title>By: Asmarani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asmarani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever wrote the post under the name &quot;anon2&quot; has insulted the Prophet. Such statements are blasphemous and removes a person from the fold of Islam. Who in their right mind would suggest that the Prophet wasn&#039;t doing what Allah ordered him to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever wrote the post under the name &#8220;anon2&#8243; has insulted the Prophet. Such statements are blasphemous and removes a person from the fold of Islam. Who in their right mind would suggest that the Prophet wasn&#8217;t doing what Allah ordered him to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Swarth Moor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swarth Moor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some corrections:


1.  Muslims don&#039;t say that the Prophet &quot;fled&quot; from Mecca to Medinah.  Fleeing implies cowardice.  The Prophet was ORDERED BY REVELATION to leave Mecca.


2.  A kaafir is anyone who is a non-Muslim.  Anyone who nowadays, and for the past 1,400 years, does not believe in Prophet Muhammad is a kaafir (48: 13).  Hence every atheist, Magian, agnostic, Buddhist, Hindu, tribal pagan, Shintoist, Bahai, etc. is a kaafir.  And every Christian and Jew (not talking about the Nasraa and Haadoo who genuinely followed the Prophets of their era) is also a kaafir.  The issue is one of takleef (legal accountablity), that is, will the person be punished forever in Hell for his/her kufr or not.  If the person was sane, pubescent, and heard the call of Islam in a language he understands, his first obligation is to embrace Islam immediately.  If the person does not, and then dies--even if soon thereafter--he is condemned to Hell forever.  Allah guides whomever He wills, and Allah is not obligated to do anything for us.


3.  We don&#039;t make jokes about the Deen, the Sacred Law, or the Sunnah (9: 65).  And we don&#039;t say that the Prophet opposed what Allah revealed.  This is kufr.  


I think that this highlights all the more why Muslims need to learn the matters pertaining to kufr/apostasy, so they don&#039;t commit blasphemy without knowing it and consequently be included in the Hadith of the Prophet:

&quot;The slave [e.g., human being] would utter a word he deems harmless, which causes him to fall for seventy years into the Fire.&quot;

That is, he became a kaafir without realizing it.  May Allah protect us from that.  


With Allah is the success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some corrections:</p>
<p>1.  Muslims don&#8217;t say that the Prophet &#8220;fled&#8221; from Mecca to Medinah.  Fleeing implies cowardice.  The Prophet was ORDERED BY REVELATION to leave Mecca.</p>
<p>2.  A kaafir is anyone who is a non-Muslim.  Anyone who nowadays, and for the past 1,400 years, does not believe in Prophet Muhammad is a kaafir (48: 13).  Hence every atheist, Magian, agnostic, Buddhist, Hindu, tribal pagan, Shintoist, Bahai, etc. is a kaafir.  And every Christian and Jew (not talking about the Nasraa and Haadoo who genuinely followed the Prophets of their era) is also a kaafir.  The issue is one of takleef (legal accountablity), that is, will the person be punished forever in Hell for his/her kufr or not.  If the person was sane, pubescent, and heard the call of Islam in a language he understands, his first obligation is to embrace Islam immediately.  If the person does not, and then dies&#8211;even if soon thereafter&#8211;he is condemned to Hell forever.  Allah guides whomever He wills, and Allah is not obligated to do anything for us.</p>
<p>3.  We don&#8217;t make jokes about the Deen, the Sacred Law, or the Sunnah (9: 65).  And we don&#8217;t say that the Prophet opposed what Allah revealed.  This is kufr.  </p>
<p>I think that this highlights all the more why Muslims need to learn the matters pertaining to kufr/apostasy, so they don&#8217;t commit blasphemy without knowing it and consequently be included in the Hadith of the Prophet:</p>
<p>&#8220;The slave [e.g., human being] would utter a word he deems harmless, which causes him to fall for seventy years into the Fire.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is, he became a kaafir without realizing it.  May Allah protect us from that.  </p>
<p>With Allah is the success.</p>
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		<title>By: anon2</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with anon. The Prophet was wrong. He should have killed the cursed kaffir. Thats what all our scholars teach us. Sometimes I just wish the Prophet would keep to his own sunnah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with anon. The Prophet was wrong. He should have killed the cursed kaffir. Thats what all our scholars teach us. Sometimes I just wish the Prophet would keep to his own sunnah.</p>
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		<title>By: Usamah ibn Umar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Usamah ibn Umar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Allah Subhana Wata&#039;Ala talks about kufar in Quran, he is talking about the heads of the kuffar not the common people. Allah addresses the people in power. 


As you may the story of bani Israel of how there were 3 camps. 
1. Invited to good and and forbid evil&gt;&gt;they were successful
2.Did nothing minded their own business&gt;&gt;&gt;left alone
3,Wicked people and continued with Haram&gt;&gt;&gt;thus punished.

So Allah only addresses group 1 and 3. Group 1 are Muslims. Group 3 are kaffirs who are heads of states and are in power and who are involved in evil acts.

I hope this makes it a bit more clear.
Salam Walaikum Warakhmatullah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Allah Subhana Wata&#8217;Ala talks about kufar in Quran, he is talking about the heads of the kuffar not the common people. Allah addresses the people in power. </p>
<p>As you may the story of bani Israel of how there were 3 camps.<br />
1. Invited to good and and forbid evil&gt;&gt;they were successful<br />
2.Did nothing minded their own business&gt;&gt;&gt;left alone<br />
3,Wicked people and continued with Haram&gt;&gt;&gt;thus punished.</p>
<p>So Allah only addresses group 1 and 3. Group 1 are Muslims. Group 3 are kaffirs who are heads of states and are in power and who are involved in evil acts.</p>
<p>I hope this makes it a bit more clear.<br />
Salam Walaikum Warakhmatullah</p>
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		<title>By: Yahya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yahya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ awesome (2 posts above me)
WONDERFUL post mA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ awesome (2 posts above me)<br />
WONDERFUL post mA</p>
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		<title>By: sheilaX</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheilaX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shalom,

This incident was also mentioned in Tariq Ramadan&#039;s &quot;The Meanings of the Life of Muhammad&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shalom,</p>
<p>This incident was also mentioned in Tariq Ramadan&#8217;s &#8220;The Meanings of the Life of Muhammad&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: awesome</title>
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		<dc:creator>awesome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets use reason, shall we? There are decent folks in all walks of life, there is plenty of evidence of this. Moreover there are also some pretty awful people who are muslims (ie Mr. chop off wife&#039;s head tv station guy)...ipso post facto, choose your friends wisely rather than based on group affiliation and group think. This isn&#039;t that complex or complicated.

Secondly, why demonize the Quraysh? Certainly we believe in the message of Muhammad ibn Abdallah (pbuh) but that doesn&#039;t mean that everyone would. If you came across a man in your town who said that an angel was talking to him and he was reciting noble truths to you, would you believe him? May be, may be not. The fact is that the vast majority of the followers were either close friends and companions of the Prophet pbuh (ie Khadija, Abu Bakr, Ali) or they were the poor and the destitute who had something to gain from a message which proclaimed that they were of no lesser value than others and indeed that if they believed they were better than the rest of the people living in Mecca. Over time some wealthy people also joined, even amongst these some were joining because of what they got (ie camels and gifts) rather than simply because they suddenly decided idol worshiped no longer made sense. To top it off, the Quraysh were not always bad people, certainly at times they were horrible, but the same charge could be levied against our own party. 

Once we take the blinders off, it becomes simpler to see that this was in fact a historical struggle. There are many passages against Christians and Jews but this is logical because Islam is the new comer religion thats rejected by the established religions of its time. Christianity and Judaism have similar strife with each other in the 1st century of the Gregorian Calander, moreover, the Israelites have similar strife with the Caaninite religion which precedes it in the Old Testament. 

What is obvious is that again its a historical struggle. Its only natural to paint your oponent in a negative light but these struggles were temporary. The Quyrash were forgiven. Muslims, Jews and Christians coexisted peacefuly in Andalucia and they do so today in much of the West, Indonesia etc.  Only the people who want to always be fighting will focus on fighting others and not taking people as friends.

So much of what passes for religion these days is merely the conditioning of time and space. The heart of the Abrahamic faiths has not truly changed and that heart, that core is to believe in God, love Him, do good in the world and tolove others. Whether one desires to follow the 613 laws of the OT, the teachings of Paul or the fatwas of the scholars thats a personal thing, but the issues do change because unlike scripture, the world is forever changing. There truly isn&#039;t a need to fight each other because everyone will get what they deserve. Not an atoms worth of good will go unrewarded and not an atoms worth of evil unpunished. And we are getting closer to that momment when that will happen every second.


Bringing it back to a down to earth level. Friendship, allegience etc. should be chosen based on character. We laugh when people want to elect Sarah Palin VP or President simply because she represents a certain agenda without realizing that we do the same when we engage in group think and judging people based on affiliations. Judge a man not by the color of his skin (or his creed) but by the content of his character.

Moreover, if Muslims never took non-Muslims as friends then no one would ever convert. Conversion is the byproduct of love. Moreover Muslim men can marry Christian and Jewish women whom are a Mercy from Allah irrespective of their faith and He has enjoined love and mercy between them and their spouses. It should be obvious from everything I&#039;ve said, that Islam does not condone religious bigotry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets use reason, shall we? There are decent folks in all walks of life, there is plenty of evidence of this. Moreover there are also some pretty awful people who are muslims (ie Mr. chop off wife&#8217;s head tv station guy)&#8230;ipso post facto, choose your friends wisely rather than based on group affiliation and group think. This isn&#8217;t that complex or complicated.</p>
<p>Secondly, why demonize the Quraysh? Certainly we believe in the message of Muhammad ibn Abdallah (pbuh) but that doesn&#8217;t mean that everyone would. If you came across a man in your town who said that an angel was talking to him and he was reciting noble truths to you, would you believe him? May be, may be not. The fact is that the vast majority of the followers were either close friends and companions of the Prophet pbuh (ie Khadija, Abu Bakr, Ali) or they were the poor and the destitute who had something to gain from a message which proclaimed that they were of no lesser value than others and indeed that if they believed they were better than the rest of the people living in Mecca. Over time some wealthy people also joined, even amongst these some were joining because of what they got (ie camels and gifts) rather than simply because they suddenly decided idol worshiped no longer made sense. To top it off, the Quraysh were not always bad people, certainly at times they were horrible, but the same charge could be levied against our own party. </p>
<p>Once we take the blinders off, it becomes simpler to see that this was in fact a historical struggle. There are many passages against Christians and Jews but this is logical because Islam is the new comer religion thats rejected by the established religions of its time. Christianity and Judaism have similar strife with each other in the 1st century of the Gregorian Calander, moreover, the Israelites have similar strife with the Caaninite religion which precedes it in the Old Testament. </p>
<p>What is obvious is that again its a historical struggle. Its only natural to paint your oponent in a negative light but these struggles were temporary. The Quyrash were forgiven. Muslims, Jews and Christians coexisted peacefuly in Andalucia and they do so today in much of the West, Indonesia etc.  Only the people who want to always be fighting will focus on fighting others and not taking people as friends.</p>
<p>So much of what passes for religion these days is merely the conditioning of time and space. The heart of the Abrahamic faiths has not truly changed and that heart, that core is to believe in God, love Him, do good in the world and tolove others. Whether one desires to follow the 613 laws of the OT, the teachings of Paul or the fatwas of the scholars thats a personal thing, but the issues do change because unlike scripture, the world is forever changing. There truly isn&#8217;t a need to fight each other because everyone will get what they deserve. Not an atoms worth of good will go unrewarded and not an atoms worth of evil unpunished. And we are getting closer to that momment when that will happen every second.</p>
<p>Bringing it back to a down to earth level. Friendship, allegience etc. should be chosen based on character. We laugh when people want to elect Sarah Palin VP or President simply because she represents a certain agenda without realizing that we do the same when we engage in group think and judging people based on affiliations. Judge a man not by the color of his skin (or his creed) but by the content of his character.</p>
<p>Moreover, if Muslims never took non-Muslims as friends then no one would ever convert. Conversion is the byproduct of love. Moreover Muslim men can marry Christian and Jewish women whom are a Mercy from Allah irrespective of their faith and He has enjoined love and mercy between them and their spouses. It should be obvious from everything I&#8217;ve said, that Islam does not condone religious bigotry.</p>
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