Comments on: Oklahoma Law to ban “head cover” in Driver’s License Photos http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2009/03/10/oklahoma-law-to-ban-head-cover-in-drivers-license-photos/ Not the average Muslim blog... Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:39:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jim http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2009/03/10/oklahoma-law-to-ban-head-cover-in-drivers-license-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-150549 Jim Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:38:29 +0000 http://www.mujahideenryder.net/?p=2108#comment-150549 Everyone should keep their identity, culture, language etc. However my ancestors kept all that and assimilated into American culture at the same time. Muslim women won't have an identity if they do not show their faces on their ID's. Like I said, its a security thing not religous or cultural. Everyone should keep their identity, culture, language etc. However my ancestors kept all that and assimilated into American culture at the same time. Muslim women won’t have an identity if they do not show their faces on their ID’s. Like I said, its a security thing not religous or cultural.

]]> By: The Ghazzali Blogger http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2009/03/10/oklahoma-law-to-ban-head-cover-in-drivers-license-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-150491 The Ghazzali Blogger Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:31:51 +0000 http://www.mujahideenryder.net/?p=2108#comment-150491 Oh and not all Italians are part of the mafia I never said that (in fact that's a very racist shallow thing to say), but they have had hardships in this nation and dealt with it. They have had successful businesses and I would say played a great role in NYC's history and bring culture to many of our neighborhoods. However if we all Adapted/Assimilated All these neighborhoods would look the same and NYC wouldn't be the great placce it is. What makes America great (specifically NYC) is that all the neighborhoods from jackson heights being colombian and indian to greenpoint in brklyn being polish to bayridge being Arabic to Kanarsi (spell check that one) being Italian is that ALL these neighborhoods are what America stands for. Diversity. EVERYONE kept their identity and we are able to go to another people's neighborhood and LEARN about them. Oh and not all Italians are part of the mafia I never said that (in fact that’s a very racist shallow thing to say), but they have had hardships in this nation and dealt with it. They have had successful businesses and I would say played a great role in NYC’s history and bring culture to many of our neighborhoods. However if we all Adapted/Assimilated All these neighborhoods would look the same and NYC wouldn’t be the great placce it is. What makes America great (specifically NYC) is that all the neighborhoods from jackson heights being colombian and indian to greenpoint in brklyn being polish to bayridge being Arabic to Kanarsi (spell check that one) being Italian is that ALL these neighborhoods are what America stands for. Diversity. EVERYONE kept their identity and we are able to go to another people’s neighborhood and LEARN about them.

]]> By: The Ghazzali Blogger http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2009/03/10/oklahoma-law-to-ban-head-cover-in-drivers-license-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-150490 The Ghazzali Blogger Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:19:31 +0000 http://www.mujahideenryder.net/?p=2108#comment-150490 So if we don't like a law we can't write letters or do any type of protest. we shoudl just suck it up. And with the Italian history I was tlaking about what they went through specifically in NYC and what is taught in urban studies in colleges in NYC..and another people you should look at are the jews and what they did in NYC and how they got what they wanted..they payed taxes and wrote letters. Also when I said to educate yourself I meant about other countries and as far as your skin color goes, if I went down south past Georgia I would prolly be killed too so is America a radical country?? Hell there's places in Jersey I'm scared to go to. As far as countries like Yemen there are militant groups (religious AND non-religious) that are all about th emoney and they live in parts where the government cannot enforce the laws. But where the laws are enforced you'll prolly be safe. Infact my WHITE blonde hair blue eyed arabic professor started his studies in Yemen and ended in Syria. Plus umm most syrians (the ones I know) look white and Damascus has LOTS of tourists so you can visit there to. Hell youtube Damascus Nightclubs...actually try LEBANESE nightclubs..yea you'll be in for a surprise. (I'm a conservative Muslim and don't club but I do not force my views on others so if others wanna club they can) As far as the law goes, laws are changed all the time. What if abortion was banned, should all women just leave the U.S. what if segregation was still in effect, what should blacks do? So Brown v. the board of education should have never taken place. Brown should have just went to a black school? So if we don’t like a law we can’t write letters or do any type of protest. we shoudl just suck it up. And with the Italian history I was tlaking about what they went through specifically in NYC and what is taught in urban studies in colleges in NYC..and another people you should look at are the jews and what they did in NYC and how they got what they wanted..they payed taxes and wrote letters. Also when I said to educate yourself I meant about other countries and as far as your skin color goes, if I went down south past Georgia I would prolly be killed too so is America a radical country?? Hell there’s places in Jersey I’m scared to go to. As far as countries like Yemen there are militant groups (religious AND non-religious) that are all about th emoney and they live in parts where the government cannot enforce the laws. But where the laws are enforced you’ll prolly be safe. Infact my WHITE blonde hair blue eyed arabic professor started his studies in Yemen and ended in Syria. Plus umm most syrians (the ones I know) look white and Damascus has LOTS of tourists so you can visit there to. Hell youtube Damascus Nightclubs…actually try LEBANESE nightclubs..yea you’ll be in for a surprise. (I’m a conservative Muslim and don’t club but I do not force my views on others so if others wanna club they can)

As far as the law goes, laws are changed all the time. What if abortion was banned, should all women just leave the U.S. what if segregation was still in effect, what should blacks do? So Brown v. the board of education should have never taken place. Brown should have just went to a black school?

]]> By: Jim http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2009/03/10/oklahoma-law-to-ban-head-cover-in-drivers-license-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-150485 Jim Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:52:55 +0000 http://www.mujahideenryder.net/?p=2108#comment-150485 Pakistan, malaysia, Emirates, dubai...you're probably right, because they are not as radical as say....Iran, Syria, Afghanistan(under the taliban of course) etc. Hell, my white skin and American accent would be enough reason for someone to end my life in those countries. So yea, I am educated. I wasn't around in the 60's to say anything to blacks about the laws they didn't like. Oh and we don't live in a democracy. We live in a federal constitutional republic with a democratic system. So yea umm educate yourself. And my Italian ancestors did have to adapt. Not sure if you know this but not all Italians are a part of the mafia. Obviously you watch too much t.v. And the last time i checked they spoke english in Ireland. I'm not telling muslims they can't speak arabic or farsi, in fact I encourage it. I'm all for people having their own communities w/ their own kind of people if it makes them comfortable. However, outside of the home you need to abide by established rules and laws no matter what your religion is. Being identifiable is a security issue, not religous. Pakistan, malaysia, Emirates, dubai…you’re probably right, because they are not as radical as say….Iran, Syria, Afghanistan(under the taliban of course) etc. Hell, my white skin and American accent would be enough reason for someone to end my life in those countries. So yea, I am educated.
I wasn’t around in the 60’s to say anything to blacks about the laws they didn’t like.
Oh and we don’t live in a democracy. We live in a federal constitutional republic with a democratic system. So yea umm educate yourself. And my Italian ancestors did have to adapt. Not sure if you know this but not all Italians are a part of the mafia. Obviously you watch too much t.v. And the last time i checked they spoke english in Ireland. I’m not telling muslims they can’t speak arabic or farsi, in fact I encourage it. I’m all for people having their own communities w/ their own kind of people if it makes them comfortable. However, outside of the home you need to abide by established rules and laws no matter what your religion is. Being identifiable is a security issue, not religous.

]]> By: The Ghazzali Blogger http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2009/03/10/oklahoma-law-to-ban-head-cover-in-drivers-license-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-150437 The Ghazzali Blogger Tue, 09 Jun 2009 06:20:04 +0000 http://www.mujahideenryder.net/?p=2108#comment-150437 Jim you can wear the cross in pakistan, malaysia, Emirates, Dubai etc. So yea umm educate yourself. As far as not liking the laws, is that what you said to African/black Americans during the 60's? Isn't democracy all about asking governments to make laws that we like cause we elect them? Isn't democracy suppose to REPRESENT its citizens? And if we are legal citizens (which we are) shouldn't we have the right to write letters, or do you deny us the right to say what we want? Furthermore learn a little history about the Italians and Irish immigrants. They didn't adapt and learn the customs and language. Just go to NYC (where I am from) most of them speak their original language and kept their customs. AND they did it through VIOLENT ways and not letter writing. Jim you can wear the cross in pakistan, malaysia, Emirates, Dubai etc. So yea umm educate yourself.

As far as not liking the laws, is that what you said to African/black Americans during the 60’s?

Isn’t democracy all about asking governments to make laws that we like cause we elect them? Isn’t democracy suppose to REPRESENT its citizens? And if we are legal citizens (which we are) shouldn’t we have the right to write letters, or do you deny us the right to say what we want? Furthermore learn a little history about the Italians and Irish immigrants. They didn’t adapt and learn the customs and language. Just go to NYC (where I am from) most of them speak their original language and kept their customs. AND they did it through VIOLENT ways and not letter writing.

]]> By: Jim http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2009/03/10/oklahoma-law-to-ban-head-cover-in-drivers-license-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-150425 Jim Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:12:15 +0000 http://www.mujahideenryder.net/?p=2108#comment-150425 I don't care if you were born here or not. I don't care if your parents were born here or not. My family has been here since the 1860's. They had to adapt, learn the language and customs. If you get ID'd somewhere how are they supposed to know you are who you are? If you have a problem w/ uncovering your head for your driver's license then take the bus and keep your mouth shut. I don’t care if you were born here or not. I don’t care if your parents were born here or not. My family has been here since the 1860’s. They had to adapt, learn the language and customs. If you get ID’d somewhere how are they supposed to know you are who you are? If you have a problem w/ uncovering your head for your driver’s license then take the bus and keep your mouth shut.

]]> By: barbar http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2009/03/10/oklahoma-law-to-ban-head-cover-in-drivers-license-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-150087 barbar Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:31:52 +0000 http://www.mujahideenryder.net/?p=2108#comment-150087 i am sick at the idea that jim would say that i was born seattle wa my mom usa my dad usa my grandfather grandmother i am a muslim and my hijab does not and will not come off in public and that is my right i am sick at the idea that jim would say that i was born seattle wa my mom usa my dad usa my grandfather grandmother i am a muslim and my hijab does not and will not come off in public and that is my right

]]> By: David http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2009/03/10/oklahoma-law-to-ban-head-cover-in-drivers-license-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-146096 David Tue, 05 May 2009 23:49:40 +0000 http://www.mujahideenryder.net/?p=2108#comment-146096 So Oklahoma wants to be a Mecca for those who don't wear head scarves! :-O So Oklahoma wants to be a Mecca for those who don’t wear head scarves! :-O

]]> By: Jim http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2009/03/10/oklahoma-law-to-ban-head-cover-in-drivers-license-photos/comment-page-1/#comment-146086 Jim Tue, 05 May 2009 22:59:29 +0000 http://www.mujahideenryder.net/?p=2108#comment-146086 If you don't like the laws in Oklahoma, then move to a state that panders to every immigrant that comes to this country and doesn't like our laws. I wonder if I could get away w/ wearing a christian cross in a muslim country and not catch any grief. I'd probably get my head cut off. Welcome to the civilized world cry babies! If you don’t like the laws in Oklahoma, then move to a state that panders to every immigrant that comes to this country and doesn’t like our laws. I wonder if I could get away w/ wearing a christian cross in a muslim country and not catch any grief. I’d probably get my head cut off. Welcome to the civilized world cry babies!

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