“I don’t care about people coming to Islam. That’s not my business. That’s Allah’s business. My business is to give The Message.”

This is as real as it gets. Really looking forward to this.

20 Replies to ““I don’t care about people coming to Islam. That’s not my business. That’s Allah’s business. My business is to give The Message.””

  1. Salam aleikum,

    I remember reading about how Malcolm X discouraged and condemned black people singing hymns as a delusion and instead encouraged action and intellectual development.

    Putting all the fatwas aside, I think this is good advice to follow.

  2. Masha allah looks like a good video, It was hard to tell if they were promoting or condeming music. One could take it either way. I took it as condemning music. Its not about if it works or not its about is it halaal. One guy said I use music as dawah because it gives to a vast audiance. Well using that same logic Im gonna advertise Islam on a porn site.

    Also saying Im not a scholar is a cop out. Get real we all meeting allah and it is our responsibility to know our religion. No one is going to have your back that day and youll have no excuse.

  3. cool, this is very exciting, to see all these artists of different backgrounds and genres really grappling with questions of identity, legitimacy, their responsibility as role models and cultural figures, etc. looking forward to the whole story.

  4. I remember attending a talk by Br. Mutah Beale, formerly known as Napoleon of Tupac’s Outlawz. In it, he talked about some different ways that people came to Islam.

    One brother he knew became a Muslim through a drug deal. Basically, he was selling drugs to a Muslim and since the Muslim did not have any money to buy the drugs, he gave the drug dealer a copy of the Quran instead. This drug dealer would later read that copy of the Quran and become a muslim, alhamdulillah.

    Br. Mutah (Napoleon) mentioned this in response to a question about music being used to give dawah. Basically, he was saying that people could be guided through this method, but the ends could not justify the means.

    Br. Mutah also mentioned that although he disagrees with Muslims using music to convey the message, many of them are some of his close friends and he still treats them with respect and gives them dawah and naseeha.

    Let this be a reminder that although people may disagree about this issue, we are still brothers and sisters in faith at the end of the day.

    Thank you MR for the interesting post! May Allah reward you and increase you in good.

  5. I thought this was a great trailer…. but what about Zain Bhikha why is there not a backlash against him? Because his music sounds nicer.. he sings inthe same style as boy II men.. which has i will make love to you… and marvin gaye.. who sing i wanna sex you up! I mean if its really just the music everyone is upset about then call everyone out not just the rappers… christian rappers and rockers have been popping up everywhere about a couple years ago and they have had a hard time from the older generations… if its really the music, then why listen to the ones that sound just like r&b that has just as crude lyrics.. my grandmothers church sings an r.kelly song that refers to God and even if you ignore what he does in his personal life.. the SAME CD has a song called FEELIN ON YOUR BOOTY… come on people.. you can’t have you’re cake and eat it too… if you can call out these rappers one by one… call out the other singers too! i was raised in america, on music, its scientifically proven to aid in intelligence and helps with memory, and if someone who is lost gets ALLAHU AKBAR stuck in their head and can’t get it out… who are we to judge them? if your convictions tell you its wrong then don’t do it, and don’t support it, but don’t try to cut those are trying to do the best they can down….

  6. The best part was the richness and diversity of views expressed. The humanity of these people, of faith itself is expressed when you see how it plays out in different peoples lives.

    And as far as X, he is a more complex character than people make him out to be. Hero worship is questionable at best and one should be careful about putting people on pedestals. Malcolm alludes to this himself in his Autobiography. If you read it carefully you’ll know exactly the passage I’m refering to.

  7. As the director of DEEN TIGHT… I think the diversity of these comments are great. It shows the need for more honest dialogue on matters like these. Is using hip hop for Dawah something positive or negative?

    The film trailer only shows portions of the overall film and is not a summary of the film. In order to truly get a grasp of the full story we will have to see the film in its entirety.

    The film features renown Muslim artists such as HBO Def Poetry Jam Artists AMIR SULAIMAN and LIZA GARZA, Rock Steady’s POP MASTER FABEL, Graffiti artist AEROSOL ARABIC, Mutah Beale a.k.a. NAPOLEON, KUMASI of Black Wallstreet, Remarkable Current’s M-TEAM, Underground DJ FANATIK, Producer DJ BE LIKE MUHAMMAD, RC Lyricist TYSON, Hip Hop Chess Federation founder ADISA BANJOKO, DJ KID DRAGON, DJ RAICHOUS, New York Trumpeter BARRY DANLIELIAN, and more…

    Our first private community viewing is May 9th in Fremont, CA. Join our facebook group: DEEN TIGHT (feature documentary) for updates on when we will be in your city.

    We appreciate all the comments and feedback.

    Peace and be well,

    Mustafa Davis

  8. Asalamualaikum,

    Wow, that’s powerful.

    Sometimes I lose sight of where the majority of Muslims are, in the West. Especially in the cities. Thanks Br Davis, for keeping it real.


  9. BismiAllah: As you may see from my grammar or misspellings i am not a writer, I have posted here a couple of times here, in general i like to read the diferrent blogs by muslims to get an idea of the state of muslims out there. Some times i am astonished at the ignorance of the basics of our deen, Proper knowledge of our deen and it’s implementation is our obligation, the way of the salaf our righteous ancestors scholars who follow the sunnah (no i am not a “salafi” my madhab is of Imam Malik) is our salvation, there is no other way. anything else is foolish child’s play, a delusion. everyone here has responded to this post ‘ how great etc…..’ No one has commented on the title quote ” I don’t care about people coming to Islam. That’s not my business……” A muslim should be very careful because TO NOT CARE ABOUT PEOPLE COMING TO ISLAM MAY IMPLY THAT ONE IS HAPPY OR CONDONES A PERSON BEING ON THE STATE OF KUFR. AND TO APPROVE OF SOMEONE BEING IN THE STATE OF KUFR EVEN FOR A SECOND IS KUFR. TAKING ONE OUT OF THE FOLD OF ISLAM.

  10. This movie brings to Muslims a needed & heated discussion in a productive and constructive method – by throwing all the issues out there and then letting people decide for themselves.

    I look forward to watching it!

  11. abufatu –
    I think you may be taking the title a bit too literally. I don’t think he meant to say that he doesn’t care if someone enters Islam or not. I think he means that bringing someone Islam (having them give the shahadah, etc) only comes from the hidayah of Allah. So correctly he states that all we have the power to do is to live the Message and give knowledge to those in need. We will not progress by running around labeling everyone a disbeliever, as you very well know what the state of the Sahabah (RA) were before they entered Islam.

  12. As salamu alaykum

    Sidi AbuFatu, you indeed took what was said too literal. My name is Tariq, the author of the quote that has been posted as title. When I made that comment I was trying to make a point. Many of us, unfortunately, may use questionable methods or even methods which are blatantly haraam in the name of giving dawa’h. Some may even try to water down the deen in order to make it pleasing to their audience. An example of this is one time a brother was giving a talk here in the local college. During the Q&A they asked him a question regarding A’isha (ra) age at the time of her marriage to the Prophet (saws). This brother said that A’isha (ra) was 18 at the time of her marriage which we all know is ludicrous. He said this as if he was ashamed of the Prophet (sqaws) and this was suppose to be someone that had knowledge. The reason behind his logic was “We have to use wisdom when we’re trying to give dawa’ah to the non-Muslim” This is not using wisdom but it is a straight LIE.

    The point I was trying to make with my comment was that Allah ta’ala is the one who guides. He (AWJ) is the one who make Muslims not us. Our only job is to deliver the truth and the message therefore we are out of line when we try to justify our wrong actions in the name of dawa’ah.

    I was born and raised in the gang life, spending 8 ½ years of my life in the penitentiary. all I’ve ever seen was destruction around me and as a product of that environment, I understand the need to receive and give the message of Islam. Understanding this reality, I dedicated myself for the past 15 years to giving dawa’ah, establishing a community and truly working for the sake of Allah because I do indeed care whether people come to the deen or not.

    Now regarding hip hop: I was born and raised in the South Bronx back in 70’s and 80’s. I witnessed the evolution of hip hop. I acknowledge the influence it had in bringing Islam to the “HOOD”. During which time many immigrants were too scared to go into the project and give dawa’ah. (No disrespect to my brothers but the truth is the truth). So I saw the benefit in the art but I also see the harm. Allah ta’ala is the one who guides our only job is to deliver the message in truth.

  13. Thank you brother Tariq for that clarification. As we were shooting this scene it was Sidi Tariq who changed the pace of the discussion. He made it clear that he respected hip hop and what it stood for but that he was afraid the dangers involved could overshadow the good that comes out of it.

    I would also suggest that people do see the film first before making judgements on what the characters intend or what the film is actually about. Its going to surprise a lot of people… as we have witnessed from the few people who have screened the film thus far.

    We just posted on our Deen Tight facebook page the following:

    The DEEN TIGHT film will make some people very happy and others very angry. The reactions have been equally mixed thus far. A select few have seen it and after viewing the discussions went on for hours. Sometimes calmly but often heated. What was the film saying? How are we supposed to feel about it now? The answers to those question lie in the heart of the viewer.


  14. insight quote from public intellectual Cornel West in his “Hope on a Tightrope”

    “Hip-hop music is the most important popular music development in the last thirty years. It is a profound extension of the improvisational character of what I call the Afro-American spiritual blues impulse, which is an attempt to hold the demons and devils at bay. Hip-hop allows a kind of marriage between the rhetorical and the musical by means of some of the most amazing linguistic virtuosity we have seen in the English language. Just listen to the lyrical genius of Rakim, Snoop Dogg, or Jay-Z.

    At their best, these artists respond to their sense of being rejected by society at large, of being invisible in the society at large, with a subversive critique of that society. It has to do with both the description and depiction of the conditions under which they’re forced to live, as well as a description and depiction of the humanity preserved by those living in such excruciating conditions. It then goes beyond to a large critique of the power structure as a whole.” pg. 122-3

    “Too often, hip-hop still lacks deep vision and analysis. It’s just escapism, it’s thin. It’s too morally underdeveloped and spiritually immature. In the end, it can’t just be about escaping. It has to be more of a turning-to in order to constructively contribute.”-pg. 127

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