Do you understand the meaning of evidence and proof?

I’ve been asking for it all the time from YOU to prove what you’ve been saying throughout, the outrageous claims you have been making, and you haven’t brought ANY yet.

Go here please to gain some understanding of what I’ve been asking for; http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/proof?r=75

Mehmet – “My response was clearly for these arabic guys who blindly support that a religion should be over everyone’s life and they try to empose their belife on everyone. They think every human being has to think like themselves and they have no respect to non-muslims.”

How do they have no respect for non-Muslims?

And how do they blindly support a Religion, and think every human has to think like themselves? Do you even read what you’re typing? Do you know what you’re talking about? Or you type before you think?

Can I tell you what actually, why don’t YOU start bringing forth the evidence to support your comments? Where do you get your information from, if any? I’m NOT interested in YOUR opinions, I’m interested ONLY in the FACTS. So until you bring something to prove what you’ve been saying here, I will not waste my time responding to your OPINIONS.

Mehmet – “Ottoman Empire was not liek that. You have no capacity to practice Islam like them. The way you understand and comment religion has become more and more primateive over the years.”

Again that’s your opinion. I’m not interested in what YOU think about me. Doesn’t bother me at all.

Mehmet – “Secondly, what i wanted to try to say that is i knoıw many christian who are better people. The Term ”better” refers to be a better person. more respectfull to human dignity, society, people and helping more to those who need help and aid. Persoanlly i have been to Suudi Arabistan and i was barely able to see people that were fitting my expression.”

I can argue the same. I have been to France, and have barely seen people that were fitting my expression. But the truth is, one can not make a sweeping opinion based on a number of individuals they’ve came across. There will always be bad Muslims, bad Christians. Good Muslims, and Christians. So I’m not interested in your experience. I would like you to prove GENERALLY how Christians are “better” people than Muslims in Saudi Arabia.

Mehmet – “You are also talking nonses, my friend… more than me. You are copying and pasting parts from Quran which has nothing to do with our topic.”

I’m talking nonsense? I’ve showed you the verse number. Why don’t you go open the Qu’ran before making lame comments? [Verses 5:44, 5:45, 5:47]. Go read them yourself.

I refuted you, and proved to you that POLITICS is indeed PART of Islam. That SHARIAH LAWS do indeed exist in Islam. So of course it has something to do with our topic. Or maybe you’re not aware of what you’ve been typing.

Mehmet – “Personally, i respect the way you view life and it is your choice but since you do not know the real meaning of term ”respect” , how can i argue with you here? You do not look at lif ein the same way i do. Whatever i talk here, we wont be able to communicate, unfortunatelly.”

Once again, I honestly don’t care about your opinions about me. You don’t even know me, yet you try to foolishly judge me.

You’ve been using offensive terms such as ‘backwards’, ‘filthy’, ‘animals’, and other terms to describe Arabs. You would do very well to take in your own advice about respect. Don’t tell others about respect, until you learn about it’s meaning yourself.

Mehmet – “I am not running away or anything, i just belive that whatever i talk with you, you will have no capacity and sight to understand me and my perspective. (that is not an insult please dont be offended). Thus, i see no point of arguing with you here. You can find another person to argue with , my bro.”

Your problem is you realized that I’m not accepting YOUR OPINIONS WITHOUT PROOF. You can not even show me any evidence as to what you’ve been saying. You have found yourself trapped, and decided instead of wisely leave the argument, you resorted to accusing me of lacking ‘understanding’ and ‘perspective’, and ‘primitive’.

You’re entitled to submit your opinions, and I’m also entitled to reject them, unless you can show me facts to support your opinions. I do not like, nor agree with what you’ve been saying. You have been making accusations against Arabs and Muslims, yet you can’t support any of the arguments you’ve based. Rather base it on experience with few individuals.

My advice to you is;

- Stop submitting comments, you can not later support when asked. Don’t talk about something you can not prove, and have no evidence for.

- Stop with the sweeping comments. Stop making opinions based on experience, without any data at all to prove your views.

- Accept that people will not always agree with your opinions, unless of course you can prove such opinions you hold.

- If you don’t have something good to say, silence is better than idle words.

Assalam Aliekum.

My response was clearly for these arabic guys who blindly support that a religion should be over everyone’s life and they try to empose their belife on everyone. They think every human being has to think like themselves and they have no respect to non-muslims.

Ottoman Empire was not liek that. You have no capacity to practice Islam like them. The way you understand and comment religion has become more and more primateive over the years.

Secondly, what i wanted to try to say that is i knoıw many christian who are better people. The Term ”better” refers to be a better person. more respectfull to human dignity, society, people and helping more to those who need help and aid. Persoanlly i have been to Suudi Arabistan and i was barely able to see people that were fitting my expression.

You are also talking nonses, my friend… more than me. You are copying and pasting parts from Quran which has nothing to do with our topic.

Personally, i respect the way you view life and it is your choice but since you do not know the real meaning of term ”respect” , how can i argue with you here? You do not look at lif ein the same way i do. Whatever i talk here, we wont be able to communicate, unfortunatelly.

I am not running away or anything, i just belive that whatever i talk with you, you will have no capacity and sight to understand me and my perspective. (that is not an insult please dont be offended). Thus, i see no point of arguing with you here. You can find another person to argue with , my bro.

Ve Aleyküm Esselam

You have not produced any single EVIDENCE and PROOF I asked you to provide for the statements you were making.

You have not refuted anything I said.

You are simply an angry person, letting out their anger on this thread, hence not thinking before you type, which is shown in the ignorance and stupidity of your comments.

So my suggestion is you first need to relax. Calm down. We are here talking about facts. If the truth is bitter to you, which it’s clearly is, close the tab, and leave this thread. Simple.

Mehmet – “”saudi arabia, iraq etc, they all are backward 3. world countries. IRanians are modern, nobel people actually but a semi-arab called Humeni has turned us into a islamic country.”

How is Saudi Arabia and Iraq backward? In what ways exactly?
Once again, bring forth your proof if you’re truthful.

And you claim Saudi Arabia is a 3rd world country? Sure about what you’re talking about?

“Islam is a religion, not politican. Islam has nothign to do with politics and if you involce islam in to politics in 21 centruy, sorry but you are just piece of animals and not humans ”

Islam is a way of life. It encompasses everything, which includes Politics.

وَمَن لَّمْ يَحْكُم بِمَا أَنزَلَ اللّهُ فَأُوْلَـئِكَ هُمُ الْكَافِرُونَ (Whoever does not judge and rule according to what Allah has Revealed, such are the disbelievers) [5:44]

The Holy Qu’ran is suitable for all times, and yes, even the 21st Century. And no, involving Islam, into Politics, in other words, judging and ruling by what Allah {Azza Wa Jal} has revealed, does not make someone an animal.

Mehmet – “Being a good person is not just having no alcohol or meeting girls, i know thousands of christians or athesits or whatever who are way betetr and helpful to the mankind than avarage muslims of Suudi countries.”

Once again, generalizing, and making baseless sweeping remarks.

How are they better than Muslims in Saudi? How are Atheists and Christians better than Muslims in Saudi? Please for once, stop talking nonsense, and show any hint of evidence to support the ignorant comments you are submitting.

Mehmet – “Of corus enot all arabs are liek that, i have an egyptian fiance and i know many decent arabs but most of the arabs , pakis and afghans are branwashed peopel with zero mentallity and they are a bad represantative of the Islam.”

Most? Where is your PROOF? The basis for your comments? You can not make a sweeping comment based on the attitude of a few individuals you came across. So I would like to see your PROOF that MOST are ‘brainwashed’ with ‘zero mentality’ as you claim. Show your proof. You’re entitled to an opinion, like everyone else. It’s not a fact, unless you can support and prove it is.

Mehmet – “Islam coudl seperate more and more if there were not backwards tradioners like you were exist.”

I don’t respond to insults from strangers On-line. Keep labelling me with whatever terms you may wish. Feel free to do so. I will keep silencing and refuting your ignorance.

Mehmet – “And yes, i am a Muslim, i just dont belive that Sheria lwas are exist in Islam, Quran has got alot of commented version and sheria and other laws are just missrepresentation of arabs, especially Suudi animals.”

You don’t believe Shariah laws exist in islam? I can see you harbor a dislike for Saudi’s. Which is blinding you from the truth.

وَمَن لَّمْ يَحْكُم بِمَا أَنزَلَ اللّهُ فَأُوْلَـئِكَ هُمُ الْكَافِرُون (Whoever does not judge and rule according to what Allah has Revealed, such are the disbelievers) [5:44]

وَمَن لَّمْ يَحْكُم بِمَا أنزَلَ اللّهُ فَأُوْلَـئِكَ هُمُ الظَّالِمُونَ (And they who do not judge in accordance with what God has revealed – they, they are the evildoers) [5:45]

وَمَن لَّمْ يَحْكُم بِمَا أَنزَلَ اللّهُ فَأُوْلَـئِكَ هُمُ الْفَاسِقُونَ (Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed; such are evil-livers.) [5:47]

Your second post doesn’t have anything interesting to reply to. So having said that, Assalam Aliekum.

You are brainwashed and you have no respect to human dignity and personal choice.

So i wont write you anymore guys,

i am sorry.

Regards

Islam is a religion, not politican. Islam has nothign to do with politics and if you involce islam in to politics in 21 centruy, sorry but you are just piece of animals and not humans

Being a good person is not just having no alcohol or meeting girls, i know thousands of christians or athesits or whatever who are way betetr and helpful to the mankind than avarage muslims of Suudi countries.

Of corus enot all arabs are liek that, i have an egyptian fiance and i know many decent arabs but most of the arabs , pakis and afghans are branwashed peopel with zero mentallity and they are a bad represantative of the Islam.

Islam coudl seperate more and more if there were not backwards tradioners like you were exist.

And yes, i am a Muslim, i just dont belive that Sheria lwas are exist in Islam, Quran has got alot of commented version and sheria and other laws are just missrepresentation of arabs, especially Suudi animals.

Kamal Attuturk….well done

Mehmet – “Hz Muhammed (S.A.V) was born as arab but he was a universal prophet. I am tlakign about the fact that arabs live like in primative eras today.”

Arabs? Why are you making such a sweeping comment, and labelling ALL Arabs, ‘backwards’ and ‘filthy’? Where is your proof? Show it if you’re truthful. As I said, you’re ignorant.

Mehmet – “Dear Al Sudani, you are proposing sheri-laws and you are calling me ignorant?”

Yes I would like to see Shariah laws implemented. I do not wish to follow laws, created by other humans. Why should I? I believe in the laws of God.

Mehmet – “Well, every religion can be modernized without any changes made. Islam has ability to modernize itself. This is its nature.”

Islam is complete and perfect. We do not need to add or take anything from it. We do not need to ‘modernize’ something complete and perfect, and a Religion which is suitable for all times.

الْيَوْمَ أَكْمَلْتُ لَكُمْ دِينَكُمْ وَأَتْمَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعْمَتِي وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ الإِسْلاَمَ دِينًا (This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.)

Mehmet – “You cannot beat yoru wife just because you are angry or if you just drink a beer, it doesnt mean you are a kafir.”

Under Shariah laws, you are not a Kafir for drinking beer. And neither can you beat your wife just because you’re angry.

Where do you get such information from? CNN, Fox news?

Mehmet – “I know alot of HACI who went to Mekke and they look at women and touch their pen*s but if you ask them they are real muslims and all people who drink a beer must be punished.”

May Allah {Azza Wa Jal} guide such people, and help them lower their gaze and protect their private parts, Ameen.

Mehmet – “To be honest arabic world is not applying islam correctly, they jsut applying their own customs and traditions. The most Zina, etc and such shames are comign from arabs.. Not Iranians or turks or western people.”

Well I agree with you, there is not a single country in the world that is ruled 100% by Shariah. That is why I want to see Shariah laws fully implemented.

Most Zina and shames is coming from the Arabs, not Iranians, Turks, or Western people?

Subhana’Allah, where is your evidence to such a statement? Are you aware of the huge prostitution problem in the West, and yes, even in so-called “Islamic republic of Iran”?

Please bring the proof the comments you have been submitting. It will be interesting to see.

Dear Al Sudani, you are proposing sheri-laws and you are calling me ignorant ? Well, every religion can be modernized without any changes made. Islam has ability to modernize itself. This is its nature. You cannot beat yoru wife just because you are angry or if you just drink a beer, it doesnt mean you are a kafir.

I know alot of HACI who went to Mekke and they look at women and touch their pen*s but if you ask them they are real muslims and all people who drink a beer must be punished.

To be honest arabic world is not applying islam correctly, they jsut applying their own customs and traditions. The most Zina, etc and such shames are comign from arabs.. Not Iranians or turks or western people.

Best Regards

Mehmet – “Filthy Arabs/Backwards Arabs”. Do you realize the Prophet Muhammed {Salalahu Alyhi Wasalam} was an Arab?

Sharia laws has nothing to do with Islam? And Arabs didn’t invent those Religious laws and customs.

Why can a state not be controlled by Religious laws? Why can it be controlled by man-made laws?

You don’t even know what you’re talking about. You’re just an angry person, which is reflected in the ignorance of your comments.

Relax, calm down, think, before you speak.

A state cannot be bontrolled with religious laws, it is just backward arabs who has invented these customs and demonstrated world as it was real. It has nothing to do with islam