“I believe Israel has a powerful strangle hold on the American government. They have us involved in wars of which we have little or no interest. Our children are coming back in body bags. Our nation is bankrupt over these wars. And if you open your mouth you get targeted.” – James Traficant
Very interesting video. I never knew much about this guy, but he seems like a true American who is concerned about it’s relation with Israel. I hope Ohio puts him in office. The Muslims need to step up and help get in office. Edit: Looks like this guy isn’t such a good guy in office due to his criminal past.
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I watched this interview when it was first aired on the Greta Van Sutern show, Traficant is a patriot. Muslims won’t be voting for Traficant, he wants closed borders. Muslims will vote for a pro war (wars killing other Muslims) before a guy who is anti immigration, the Muslims will call him “racist!” Muslims in the West are heavily influenced by African Americans when it come to politics, and they always vote for open borders, pro HOMO liberal parties….. !!
@Frank – You’ll be surprised. When Bush was running against Gore and Lieberman in 2000, the majority of Muslims voted for Bush because they didn’t want a Jew (Leiberman) in office. We tend to vote for the “lesser evil” and anti-Israeli is usually the lesser evil. Also, Muslims are pretty racist when it comes to Black people. You haven’t been to the suburban Muslim communities to realize this.
Well MR, the only Muslims who would be racist/ anti black are the older immigrants who came here 30+ years ago, their kids are now Americanized whiggers. The same thing happened in Europe. The good traits of the hard working immigrant parents were lost with the kids, who’ve become followers of Jewish agitprop. They are more interested in Malcolm X and Muslim hip hopers then they are the traditional sources of Islamic knowledge. Muslims voted for Obama who is basically a puppet of Jews Rahn Emmanuel and David Axelrod. I am from Philadelphia, not the suburbs, but I been around a lot of suburban Muslims when I was in college, and they wont vote for a guy painted as racist by the media. As I said in Europe, Canada, and the United States Muslims almost ALWAYS support liberal politicians, any politician who doesn’t tow the globalist line will not get a vote from them.
lol @ both of you
Frank;
“Muslims in the West are heavily influenced by African Americans when it come to politics.”
In the West? Or do you mean specifically in America? I don’t live in America, so I can’t speak of America. But as for other parts of the West, that’s totally not true. I live in the West, amongst many other Muslims, and we are not influenced by African Americans when it comes to Politics.
The reason why some Muslims voted for Obama, is because he was seen as the ‘lessor of 2 evils’. Not because of his ethnicity. John McCain was obviously seen as a bigger threat to Muslims and Islam, than Obama. A lot of Muslims were fooled into believing Obama will bring new hope to the Muslim world. That he would close Guantanamo Bay, leave Iraq, make peace in the Middle-East..etc
Like what MR said, Muslims are racist when it comes to black people. I’m brown myself, and from my experience with various Muslims of different backgrounds, particularly Arabs, and South-East Asians, MR is no doubtfully right.
“James Anthony Traficant, Jr. (born May 8, 1941) is a former Democratic Representative in the United States Congress from Ohio (from 1985 to 2002). He represented the 17th Congressional District, which centered around his hometown of Youngstown and includes parts of three counties in northeast Ohio’s Mahoning Valley. He was expelled after being convicted of taking bribes, filing false tax returns, racketeering, and forcing his aides to perform chores at his farm in Ohio and on his houseboat in Washington, D.C.,[1] and was released from prison on September 2, 2009, after serving a seven-year sentence.[2]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Traficant
Kearns is right MR. Traficant has already been elected by the people of Ohio.
And then imprisoned by them as well.
Nonetheless, he’s still speaking the truth. It’s amazing how some politicians will only speak the truth when they have nothing to lose.
While I’m glad for his statements, I wish Jimmy Carter had called Israel apartheid back when he was president instead of when he’s knocking on death’s door (though only Allah knows how much longer he has).
And I wish Traficant had spoken up about Israel BEFORE he became a convicted felon.
@ Frank – You’re either ignorant or racist or both.
Those 2nd generation immigrant Muslims that vote liberal are not being influenced by African-Americans. They are influenced by hippie Caucasians and (mostly white) media like The Daily Show, MTV, CNN, MSNBC, etc.
Also, you said:
“Well MR, the only Muslims who would be racist/ anti black are the older immigrants who came here 30+ years ago…The good traits of the hard working immigrant parents were lost with the kids..”
So…you’re saying racism is a good trait?
Thank you for confirming what I originally thought about you.
You are both.
@Al Sudani you’re wrong. In places like France, Uk, Canada, and Scandanvia many younger Muslims dress like blacks and listen to hip hop music. I could post a few thousand pictures here of Muslim in Europe that could pass for black Americans in Philadelphia, Baltimore, NYC, etc.
@Abu Ibrahim blacks almost always vote for liberal politicians, so your argument makes no sense. A guy like Traficant who wants closed borders will be called a racist by black people. I don’t think racism is good, but I rather have my kids be racist then act like an African American.
@Kearns Traficant was subject to a witch hunt by the Jews because he supported Demjanjuk for instance. He was hit with trumped up chrages and could have got pardoned if he admitted guilt, but he didn’t and did 7 years in jail. That shows a lot of character.
@Frank – It seems you really hate Black people. Do you? And I don’t know where you live, but the majority of Muslim youth in America dress like the average American teenager. Regardless of color. There are white boys who dress like Gang bangers in the suburbs as much as Muslim boys who dress like that as well. Hip Hop music has become trash and is now considered Pop? When was the last time you turned on the Radio? Hip Hop is mainstream. The clothing and culture are popular amongst all young people regardless of color. Not saying this is a good thing, but because many Muslim youth are into the Pop culture doesn’t mean they will support what Black people support. I think you should consider looking at what the general youth are into today.
Lastly, why do you even come to this blog if you hate Islam and Muslims so much? Every comment you write is nothing but negativity. You only incite hatred. What’s so attracting on this site that makes you want to come back?
@ Frank
You have further proven your ignorance and racism, thereby making this a pointless discussion.
The fact that most blacks vote for liberal politicians is irrelevant. I wasn’t arguing that point, you idiot.
Besides, most Jews vote liberal. As do most Californians. And most New Yorkers. And most New Englanders. And according to the most recent election, so do most Americans too.
Most of whom are white. So your previous argument is once again…ignorant.
You are really making this too easy for me. Whatever your stereotypical ideas about African Americans, they will not apply to me.
You may not want your children to behave like many African-Americans do…but for their sake, you should at least hope they’re better than you.
You obviously aren’t that bright (this discussion proves that).
If you are Muslim (which I doubt) you’re obviously not a very good one. I’m not the best Muslim in the world, but I’m certain I’m closer to piety than you are (by Allah’s will). (Racism and piety don’t mix).
Since you’re a racist, you have a serious character flaw which makes my character better than yours.
Boom! Told you. This black man tops you in every category!
If you want to keep this up, be my guest. You cannot and will not win this argument. I’m going to win and I’ll make you look stupid in the process (Inshallah).
MR I don’t know what you’re reading comprehension skills are, but show me where i “attacked” Islam and Muslims. I made a valid statement, the majority of Muslims in the West vote for liberal parties, the ones that are pro globalization. Traficant is an America first guy, not a globalist. That means Muslims are not going to vote for him, even if he is anit Israel, because they really don’t care about the Israeli/Palestine thing that much, they are pro open borders. I am not against black people, I think African American culture is degenerate, living in a black majority city and having to deal with them everyday this is what I’ve come to believe. I don’t listen to the radio for music, I haven’t listened to music in around 5 years or so. The majority of Muslims i’ve come across have been whiggers, and use the same arguments like slavery and genocide of so and so they learned from the blacks. I’ve had countless conversations with nationalist in numerous European countries and they’ve told me the Muslims there are used exactly the same way Jews use blacks here in the United States. I also have a female acquaintance from France who teaches school in a heavily Muslim area there and says similar things.You can’t refute my points so you predictably call me a racist. I keep coming back to this blog because it has interesting topics, routinely updated, and comments are automatically updated. There are plenty of things I like about Islam, so you’re a liar to call me anti Islam.
@ Abu Ibrahim if you’re such a pious Muslim how can you defend the African Americans? Don’t you see a conflict of interest there? Defending African Americans means you have to defend their high crime rates, high rates of sex ouside of marriage, selling and taking drugs, alcohol abuse, racism, gambling, worshiping Jesus, etc…. You do know the vast majority of African Americans are KAFIRS??
BTW, this is probably my last post here if the owner doesn’t want me to post.
Frank,
Speaking the truth about a people doesn’t mean that you’re automatially supporting their mistakes and bad habits.
You know, you really suck at being the devil’s advocate. Don’t give up your day job anytime soon.
@Frank – Do you think calling someone a “whigger” (which is a pun off of nigger” not attacking that person?
You also said
I never said I don’t want you here, I was just wondering why you were here since you hate pretty much everything this blog is about. You hate Islam and Muslims, but yet your’e on this blog commenting and arguing with Muslims. It’s just strange to find someone to do this. It’s like someone who hates eating french fries and continues to eat it.
“@ Abu Ibrahim if you’re such a pious Muslim how can you defend the African Americans? Don’t you see a conflict of interest there? Defending African Americans means you have to defend their high crime rates, high rates of sex ouside of marriage, selling and taking drugs, alcohol abuse, racism, gambling, worshiping Jesus, etc…. You do know the vast majority of African Americans are KAFIRS??”
Assalamu Allaykum
You look COMPLETLY IGNORANT right now. All those things you said are steryotypes and nothing more. Not everyone African Amercian person acts or behaves that way, c’mon seriously. I’ve seen lots of African American people who definetly don’t act like that, and they’re not Muslim. You seem to have some personal beef with African Americans. Maybe you got into a little trouble with an African Amercian person. Here’s a lil tip, don’t generalize a people just because they did something wrong to you. (coming from personal experiences)
@ Frank – See? I knew you weren’t that bright.
I said I was African-American. And I didn’t say I was pious…just better than you (you’re racist; I’m not).
Anyway, you’re obviously just doing this for shock value. You have not stated that you’re Muslim, and given your conduct, I’m inclined to believe that you aren’t.
Whether this is your last post or not, it doesn’t matter to me. This is my last post on this topic. You have absolutely nothing of value to add.
The cleaners called. Your white hood and robes are ready for pickup.
A–hole. (Istaghfirullah. Had to let it out.)
Abu Ibrahim dude, look around, in recent days right here on this site Frank has said he’s an ex-Muslim.
A claim which I suspect anyways.
As-salaam alaikum brothers and sisters. Although we don’t like some of the things Frank says, we shouldn’t make him feel unwelcome. Islam is spread by good character and not responding in kind when people make offensive statements.
@Maverick, if you’re ever in Philadelphia me and you can go to the mosque I used to go to, or see some Muslims I used to associate with and they will tell you I was a Muslim. I dont lie, like you.
@Somaliana, blacks in the United States have the highest rates of people in prison, highest rates of Sexual diseases, highest rates of abortion, highest rates dropping out of school, highest rates of illiteracy, highest rates of kids out of marriage. That is not a stereotype, but a fact !! Speaking out against evil people doesn’t make a person a racist. I’m white and admit most white people are worthless, but I think there is a small population of whites that are intelligent. As long as blacks and even whites work for the interest of Jews and other assorted nation wreckers they aint getting my respect or friendship, and I will continue to condemn them for being evil.
@al murbit if these people here were true Muslims they would try and get me back into the fold of Islam and not make exscuses for all types of scumbags.
@Frank, if you’re ever on Mars, me and you can go to my presidential mansion I keep there, or see some Martians I used to associate with and they will tell you I was a President. I don’t lie, like you.
In other words, don’t let the door hit you on your way out.
@Maverick, it is a pity they don’t have an ignore feature on these blogs, then I wouldn’t have to read your spam or fluff. You Brits like to claim we don’t have a sense of humor, in reality youse just aint funny…..
Frank;
You said; “Al Sudani you’re wrong. In places like France, Uk, Canada, and Scandanvia many younger Muslims dress like blacks and listen to hip hop music. I could post a few thousand pictures here of Muslim in Europe that could pass for black Americans in Philadelphia, Baltimore, NYC, etc.”
No, I’m NOT wrong. I was responding to your statement;
““Muslims in the West are heavily influenced by African Americans when it come to politics.”
Now however, you are making a completely different point about LIFESTYLE. This is not what I was responding to. Rather replying to your comment about the influence on Muslims in the West, of African-American on POLITICS, not influence in way of dressing and lifestyle!
Though I agree with your you, that many young Muslims in the West listen to hip-hop music, and dress like blacks, that is irrelavant to this argument about influence of African-Americans on POLITICS. African-Americans do NOT have an influence on them, when it comes to Politics. The fact some Muslims supported Obama, is nothing to do with his ethnicity.
Frank;
“al murbit if these people here were true Muslims they would try and get me back into the fold of Islam and not make exscuses for all types of scumbags.”
Why would they try to get you back to the fold of Islam, when you are clearly not making any efforts at all yourself, at returning? I’ve noticed in many comments you post, you appear to love to tell us over and over again, the fact you are an apostate. A lot of your comments have “I was a Muslim”. You should be a bit more considerate.
No doubt why some people don’t exactly like you.
@Al Sudani you forget the hip hop music isn’t just about hoes, hennesy, and hummers. It also has a political message, it is also “anti racist” which is a code word for being anti white. The majority of the record company owners are Jews, who would love to see young people become influenced from this garbage music. I don’t think it is coincidence the majority of African Americans and Muslims in the West vote for liberal parties. A lot of Western Muslims left Islamic nations to live in kafir countries, I assume you did the same? I don’t think people who do this take religion as their most important matter anyway.
@Al suyuufi not all blacks identify with the ghetto culture, but many do, and even more apologize for it.
MR- you might want to look more deeply into Traficant’s so called criminal past. From what i could make out of the videos of his hearing to be expelled from congress, the evidence against him was quite minimal and most likely false. additionally, if you look at what exactly happened to him, you can clearly tell that he was on several watch lists and was probably targeted.
Think about it, just in this past few years we have heard so many PROVEN and CONFIRMED reports about members of congress engaging in outrageous activities and non of them have gone to jail. This guys supposedly commits bribery or accepted campaign fund for personal use, while the reason everyone hated him was because he tried to expose that the Democratic National Committee accepted Funds from Chinese sources.
nonetheless, after watching a few videos of him, he seems like a badass and i wouldn’t mind having someone like him represent my district
Frank, all joking aside, I know you’re just enjoying yourself. Now I’ll joke around a little. it doesn’t seem you’re getting the respect of any one here even though you “don’t work for the interest of Jews”. A decent number of the people who post on this blog don’t even generalize as much as you do and don’t go wild with repetitive blather with no agreement in sight. Main exception is that black fist dude going on about Egyptian kings and your “soon to be non-white grand kids”.
Dave, I don’t know where you live, but in the United Statesare media and congress is heavily controlled by the Jews, this isn’t even debatable. My main argument here has been Muslims almost never say anything negative about anyone but whites. They will use terms like white trash, but would never use black garbage or Latino scum. Thats because in the Jewish controlled mass media it is acceptable to bash certain groups, but if you say something about other groups you’re gonna suffer from it, like lost your job. That black fist dude is also a Muslim, so I think you’re conceding my point here.
I don’t think I’m generalizing, but making a evaluation based on what I see in my daily life. Now I’m gonna be hopping on the subway and off to work in a half hour, and I’m gonna have to deal with ghetto blacks, so what do you want me to talk about? Tibetans? Turks, Indonesians? Greeks? No, no , no,
@Frank – you said:
I have a theory of why you only hear Muslims talk about Black people in a negative way. You have mostly been with Black Muslims who regardless of faith still hate on White people.
Now I know for a fact non-Black Muslims hate on Black people and Latinos more than white people. My proof is they marry their family more to white people than Black and Latino. I know way more white people who are inter married to non-Black/Latino Muslim families than Black/Latino inter marrying with them.
My further proof of this is that many non-Black/Latino Muslims use their own language to speak about them in derogatory times. For example in Urdu, Kala is used as a nickname for a Black person. In Arabic, it is ‘Abd.
Now they won’t go out of their way to tell a white convert like yourself, Frank. They’d do it amongst their own people, and trust me, Black/Latino people are more ridiculed than white people.
The reality is that all of this is wrong. No true Muslim would simple mock another person based on their ethnicity or color. It is against Islam.
Frank, I’m not really interested in your point because it doesn’t make much sense. Whether it’s just Muslim-Americans or all Americans makes no difference to me.
Ditto to what MR said –
- having lived all over the States and Canada [and not Britain, as Frank believes] I can vouch for the fact that desies and many arabs, particularly the older generation, routinely use derogatory terms for blacks in general [not black Muslims]. The younger, current generation doesn’t do it much at all, but racial stereotypes about african americans are much, MUCH more common.
If Frank thinks most Muslims are more racist against whites … man what can I say … the guy usually talks outta his behind so this is nothing new.
Frank;
No, I did not forget that. I know what hip-hop music is about. Muslims in the West are not influenced by African-Americans in regards to Politics. You are making a very sweeping comment. The majority of Muslims, in the West, and the same can be said for the rest of the World, are influenced by Religion, in terms of Politics. Some Muslims supported Obama, as they viewed him as a less threat to Muslims and Islam. Some went as far as to believe he would help bring and achieve a new positive relationship between the West and Islam. So as you see, Religion played a part in their opinions, and continues to do so. Not because of his ethnicity, did they choose him over McCain.
No, I did not leave to come to the West. I was born in the West.
Frank;
“My main argument here has been Muslims almost never say anything negative about anyone but whites. They will use terms like white trash, but would never use black garbage or Latino scum.”
That may be true about Muslims in the area where you live. But certainly not the case in other places.
Muslims are far more racist towards Black people, than Whites. Arabs will use terms like, just to name a few;
Zunji
Kour
Aa’bid
K’heen
Habashi
And many others. Now I challenge you, Frank, to find me a number of racist terms used by Arab Muslims, in describing whites.
I know Asians also have racist terms to describe Black people. I also similarly challenge you to find me a number of racist terms used by Asian Muslims, in describing whites.
I have been a Muslim all my life. I’m brown. I’ve had experience with Muslims of various backgrounds. I know how they treat Brown-Black people, in comparison to lighter people, whites in particular. You will find many products to lighten your skin, and whiten it, available in many Muslim nations, particularly those in the Middle-East, and Asia. So dark skin is seen as ugly. Hence Black people are seen as inferior.
al-suyuufi, just to temper your statements – arabs and desies both are of a wide range of colors and hues. You’ll find plenty of pakistanies and indians who are very light colored, they have brown / red / blonde hair with green / hazel / blue / brown eyes …. and you’ll find plenty who are dark skinned, dark haired. My own mother has light skin color and her original [genetic] hair color is not black; she routinely gets mistaken for an Arab often.
Arabs themselves run the entire spectrum as well; Yemenies and southern Egyptians for example, Omanies, Emaraties etc will be darker complexions while those from Iraq, Syria, Lebnaan etc will be lighter skinned [although that's also because they've had plenty of mixing with other races over the centuries]
There is a blog post on Umar Lee’s blog that does a good job in making point. Umar makes a bunch of derogatory remarks against white Muslims, not non Muslim whites mind you. Umar Lee happens to be heavily influenced by African Americans, if you want he could definitely be called a wigg… A white Muslim responds and basically rips Umar a new arselach. He points out that Umar almost never has anything to say about the kafir ghetto African American culture and people. This is the type of Islam I see in the US and Western World. I call it Judeo-Islam, heavily influenced by African Americans who were heavily influenced by Jewish created anti white propaganda, a lot also hold beliefs from the NOI days…. Read this mans comments “Muslim Bro” it is very accurate portrayal of American Muslims I’ve seen.
http://umarlee.com/2009/07/02/united-for-change-3-white-muslim-brothers-and-sunnah-based-change/#comments
Fail.
Umar Lee’s views aren’t representative of any particular ethnicity amongst North American Muslims.
Sudani’s challenge still stands.
“I call it Judeo-Islam, heavily influenced by African Americans who were heavily influenced by Jewish created anti white propaganda.”
What a mouthful. We should let David Duke know about this!
I cant answer his question because I don’t associate with Arabs really. Only know two Arabs well, one was a Palestinian who lived in Greece before he came to the US and considered Greeks to be racist. He lived in a black neighborhood and identified with black causes. The other Arab I knew was a Tunisian who had lived in France before he came to the USA. He lived with and worked for a friend of mine who is originally from Italy. The Tunisian also considered French racist, he eventually got a black girl pregnant and moved in with her. The Arabs can’t be too racist against blacks because many Arabs are mixed with black people. A racist people usually don’t have sex with people they hate. My sources in France tell me the Arabs and Africans are one in the same there, they both live in the same areas and mix with each other. I said the older generations could be considered racist, but the younger ones who’ve grown in the West and been inodcrinated are usually whiggers. Go read some Arab and Desi forums if you want to see what I mean. Go google some pictures from the riots in France a few years ago, or the riots in England. The Muslims there could easily be mistaken for rioters in an American ghetto.
You’re full of crap about Umar Lee too, he is one of the most popular Muslim bloggers in the US, I’m pretty sure his blog won a award from a Muslim org a few years back. His opinions are very similar to many inner-city Muslims in the US.
@ suyuufi – the reasons why some desies have an inferiority complex when it comes to skin-color is two-fold – One is because of their former colonial masters, and the second is simply “the grass is greener on the other side” – you see white people wanting to darken their skin [a.k.a tanning] and dark people wanting to lighten their skin.
@ Frank = Okay so if you can’t answer his question then please don’t presume to talk about Muslims the way you do because your experiences are heavily skewed. No matter how much this makes you burn in rage, just accept the fact that I (and others here) are hella way more deeply familiar with North American Muslim culture than you are now or ever will be.
Not only was I born Muslim, I’ve lived all around – SoCal for seven years, Michigan (Detroit (Hamtramck) and Rochester Hills) for two and a half years, Louisiana and Texas for less than a year each, and Alberta, Ontario and Quebec collectively for nearly 20 years. In addition to spending time overseas in Pakistan, Yemen, and other countries. My ancestors a few generations ago were Arab, my parents consider themselves Desi, and the way things are going with me, my kids are likely going to have a mother who’s a mix of arab and european.
The rest of your comments are, as usual, full of such appalling ignorance that I can only conclude that someone must have used your face as a dredging scoop to clean out their septic tank.
You said: “The Arabs can’t be too racist against blacks because many Arabs are mixed with black people.” – So by the same reasoning, Arabs can’t be too racist against whites because many Arabs are mixed with white (Caucasian) people? Wow, real dumb.
Then you said “A racist people usually don’t have sex with people they hate.” – Wow, more ignorance. And you think you’re American? Do you have any freaking IDEA how common it was for Southern white plantation owners to routinely have sex with their black slave-girls? Go do some research on southern genes amongst black Americans, it’ll blow your mind wide open.
I’m not sure why you’re telling me to go look up pictures from France or England. I’ve been to Paris, France and I’ve spoken with Muslims there, I know people who live there. I know people who live in England. My own blood sister is married to a Brit and lives with him and her four kids in Birmingham. Her in-laws live in London. I myself have loads of friends in London. The riots you speak of were started for very different reasons – in the France riots, most of the Muslim youth involved were poor, marginalized youth of North African descent who live in projects and are routinely discriminated against by the French society. Across the Channel, in places like Bradford and Birmingham, the riots were deliberately provoked by white-supremacist people such as BNP operatives and sympathizers.
Big woop.
None of this has anything to do with the request to produce evidence that North American Muslims [particularly Asian muslims] use racist and derogatory slang against whites.
But in case you;re having deja vu here because you’re being asked to perform and you just can’t deliver the goods, I’ll help you out. The only real term in Urdu / Hindi used sometimes with derogatory intent by Asian Muslims is “gora” – which simply means bright, as in peach-colored or white. It can be used as a polite term as well as a racist slur depending only and completely on context, certain voice dynamics, and a few qualifying prefixes or suffixes.
That’s it. As mentioned above, amongst arabs and desies, there are far more slurs used to describe blacks than there are whites.
As for your comment about Umar Lee, that’s just laughable on the surface of it, never mind if I start shining some sunshine on your ridiculous statements. Using even liberal estimates of the North American muslim population (USA & Canada to be specific) you’ll get maybe about 10 – 12 million Muslims. Of those, who’s views does Umar Lee represent? Which ethnicities? Which languages? Which cultures? Which professions? Which socio-economic strata? Which classical or modern schools of thought? Which generation and age group? Which political streams? If you actually bother doing your research and answering all these critical qualifiers, you’ll find that Umar Lee, or any others like him, represent an extremely negligible sliver of the North American muslim population. In other words, statistically irrelevant.
Trying to exaggerate his market share by making mention of some “blogging awards” (OH WOW) isn’t going to hold any water for you. So unless you actually get some sick rise out of having the floor wiped with your face over and over again, I suggest you quit while you’re ahead.
I see you haven’t answered my Challenge Frank. I will always leave it opened for you, so whenever you ever do find valid answers, or if others ever do, please post them here. It would be interesting, and something new for me to learn from, as I’ve never came across slurs, used by Arabs/Asian Muslims on Whites, having spent time living in Europe, Africa, and the Middle-East. In contrast, I’ve heard of many derogatory and racist terms used on dark-skinned people.
I will save time from replying to your response above, as it doesn’t contain the answers I was looking for, from you. Also Maverick did a great job responding to you. So I don’t see a need to reply to anything.
Once again, I repeat, the Challenge is opened. Feel free to answer it. Or anyone else for that matter. Until then, there is no point trying to fool yourself by coming up with some very illogical arguments, which Maverick totally refuted. Seriously, if you don’t have an answer, as you admitted you can’t answer my question, then I advise you to please discontinue attempting to answer something you can’t.
@Maverick once again you prove yourself to be king of fluff, you type a whole lot without saying anything. It doesn’t matter if arabs or asian muslims have a million slurs against blacks, actions speak louder then words. The riots in Europe happen to Arab, Asian, and African Muslims against who? That would be white people. The vast majority of Arab and Asian Muslims in North America and Europe happen to be what ? Whiggers, the whigger culture is anti white. Your sister is married to a Brit? Big deal, British means nothing today, a Kenyan can call himself a Brit if he was born in Britain. Mozzem Begg is a “Brit” Muslim too, go and read his book, the pages are full of anti white bias. He just a regular bloke who happened to grow up in Birmingham too. Your evidence is anecdotal, it has no legs. The fact that the majority of young Asian and Arab Muslims are whiggers, they riot against white people, they write books that are anti bias is real evidence. Not the BS you heard from so and so. Shit, even Zawhiri for Al Qeuda was pulling the whigger stuff a few years ago in order to reach out to blacks. Are you even denying that many young Muslims are into hip hop and its culture?
Frank, like I said, you clearly do not know what you’re on about.
The race riots in Bradford were instigated BY white supremacists against asians. Not the other way around. There is a critical distinction here and your empty cranium can’t see it.
The riots in France were – as I clearly stated already – a backlash caused by marginalized and disaffected youth. Socio-economic imbalance was the major driver of those riots.
And yes, it matters a lot how many racial slurs one people have for other races because it illustrates the degree to which there is racial intolerance.
The difference between you and I in this discussion is that I’m speaking from native familiarity and experience on the subject matter, and you are not. It’s like little child arguing with a surgeon about the nuanced intricacies of the human body. No one is going to take the child seriously. It’s just not going to work. You could probably make way better use of your time and energy by going and trying to suck peanut butter through a straw.
Good luck.
What makes you think the riots in Bradford were instigated by white supremacist? Pakistanis don’t even belong there, the majority of them are drug dealers, welfare bums, terrorist, etc.There have been countless whites killed by Pakistanis in the UK just because of their skin color. Look up Kriss Donald a white teen who was tortured and killed by Pakistanis for fun because he was white. I am sure your “Desi” parents wouldn’t be happy if their little village in Pakistan was swamped with a bunch of white British. If there was socio-economic embalance in France what gives the people the right to chimpout destroy property and mob attack innocent people? All you’re doing is making exscuses for violent and racist people.
You’re speaking as an apologist, who is denying reality. The only one you’re fooling is yourself and the people who already agree with you. The numerous racial slurs mean nothing, the actions I stated do.
Frank;
Because you don’t have a response to my challenge, you turn the argument to another point.
You are using a few cases, to try to prove something, and deem it a FACT!!
The case of a White teenager being killed by people of Pakistani origin, doesn’t prove that Pakistani’s as a WHOLE ARE LIKE THAT. In the same manner, when someone who claims to be Muslim and carries out a terrorist attack, that doesn’t mean MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS. You are using the same tactics the media use. Show a few cases, and then use that to try to paint an entire group of people with a label. In this case, accusing them of racism towards Whites. Also you are exaggerating to try to prove your argument;
“There have been countless whites killed by Pakistanis in the UK”
No there has not.
The numerous racial slurs, indicates the level hatred held for that particular group. The more you hate something, the more you insult it. It’s common sense. The fact there is a lot of offensive terms to describe blacks, used by Arabs, Asians, Whites, and others, and a few to none on Whites, displays the amount of intolerance towards Blacks, when compared to Whites. And yes, I do agree with you actions mean more than words, and speak louder.. And from the actions of people towards Blacks, you will see it contrast with the way they deal with whites.
Like I pointed out in one of my comments above, you will find many products to lighten your skin, and whiten it, available in many Muslim nations,which includes Pakistan. Contrast to what you’re saying, Pakistani’s don’t have anything against Whites, because of their colour. It’s quite the opposite. They hold white complexion higher than any other. Using a few cases, of Pakistani violence against Whites, doesn’t prove anything. You will always find violence committed by various races against another. And colour is not always the reason for it.
Seriously Frank, if you want to believe the attacks and riots on Whites, are based on hatred towards the White people, because they are of White complexion. and nothing else, then keep believing and fooling yourself.
As a Brown person, as much as I would like to deny it, we are classed as the LOWEST of people on Earth, by all races. We are treated the WORST. Whites are classed as the HIGHEST.
I’m beginning to wonder whether you’re here being serious, or just wasting our time in a pointless argument. This is not even a debate. The Caucasian race is regarded much higher than the Negro. PERIOD.
Frank,
Let’s try to walk you thru this thing again:
I’ll give you credit where credit is due. The Jews used the blacks to attack the morals of white society. As what Henry Ford said of the Jewish sponsored jazz music in Prohibition, hip hop was used against whites in our time. The reason why the Jews targeted you guys was that they knew white nationalists were the greatest (immediate) threat to them (they didn’t want you guys gettin’ Hitler on them ever again). The Frankfurt school folks were pretty clear on what the Jews needed to do to destabilize white society.
You are also right that many Muslim youth are infected by this black ghetto kaafir culture (BGKC). That culture is not pro-white and is definitely anti-white nationalist. It’s also a fact that the BGKC culture has been promoted and exported largely by the Jews. Because many Muslims are ignorant of their Religion, they have a hard time distinguishing libearlism/globalism from Islam. In-sha’ Allah, that will be fixed in time as Muslims learn.
The point you seem that you can’t admit to yourself is that white folks are just simply racist. Jim Crow was maintained by regularly ole white folk. The Europeans–on their own volition–went about the earth instituting segregationist policies that enabled the Europeans to exploit people (i.e., non-”white” people), humiliate them, and take their resources. Not infrequently, the European policies were out right genocidal. These are just facts of history. It doesn’t require one to be turned against white folks because of the Jewish media. A person can reach such conclusions independently. And when they do, they tend to resent white folks (especially, folks like yourself, who are apologist for white racism). And again–to be fair–this does not preclude the racism of black folks, Latinos, Asians, or Arabs, but MANY people on earth have had to deal directly with white European/American racism.
The other problem with white nationalism is, as one of my Euro-American Muslim brothers said of your ideology, it’s just shallow. In a global society “whiteness” cannot survive without oppression of other people. Put 100 people on an island (half male and half female). Twenty whites, twenty blacks, twenty East Asians, twenty South Asians, ten Latinos and ten Arabs (of various complexions). Without a system of rigorous racial segregation, within a century, there won’t be any “pure” white folks left. This shows the inherent weakness of basing an identity upon “whiteness.” Instead, the essential distinction between human beings is not one of complexion, it’s one of character. The best of the people are the best of character. This is one of the many boons Islam offers humanity–it liberates us from the shackles of `asabiyyah and calls us to attain the exalted degrees of righteousness thru sincerity to the Lord of the Universe. This is a far greater calling for the human being than racial nationalism.
With Allah is the success.
Al Sudani you should listen to Swarth Moor, he admits that many Muslims are influenced by black ghetto kafir culture, and I give him credit for that. Now that culture is anti white, you never hear one of these negroes complaining about Arabs or their fellow Afircans keeping them as slaves or colonizing them. These Muslims can’t be too anti black if they adopt the customs of this black culture. Researching this topic I’ve even come to learn there is a lot of mixing amongst blacks and Asians (pakistanis/bengalis) going on in the UK. A lot are even mixing with black kafirs, again because they’ve accepted black ghetto kafir culture. The reason Pakistanis and whites were rioting in the UK is because of a mutual hatred and distrust. The Pakistanis in the UK are known for setting up their own areas/ghettos too. This is more hypocrisy because a Muslim should only immigrate to a non Muslim country to spread Islam, and not to make money to build their grand father a house in some village. They sure aint gonna be spreading it with riots and attacking old white men they outnumber 10 to 1. I’ve even read Imran Nazar Hosein an Islamic scholar who spent a good many years in Pakistan call white people wicked and evil.
Frank;
I don’t, and haven’t denied some Muslims are influenced by the “black ghetto kafir culture” as you describe it. However, they are not ‘many’ as you put it. In the Muslim world, Middle-East, Asia, and some countries in Africa, you wouldn’t come across ‘many’ Muslims listening to Rap, Hip Hop, wearing clothes inspired by Blacks, being influenced and living the Black lifestyle. Most Muslims who do listen to Rap, Hip Hop, are youths, mainly reside in some countries in the West. Namely USA, UK, France, and some parts of Europe with a sizeable Muslim population. They are a minority. So I don’t see how you can put it as ‘many Muslims’, unless you’re specifically talking about Muslims based in the USA, or parts of Europe. Certainly you can’t speak about Muslims worldwide. Again, you’re generalising, based on the actions of a small amount of Muslims. Also Religion doesn’t play a part, in the fact they listen to Black artists. They like any other youth, are affected by the society they live in. So what I’m trying to point out, it’s not just limited to some Muslim youths. Other youths of various backgrounds, are too effected by some of the black culture.
Well as a matter of fact, you will find many negroes living in the Gulf, unhappy with the treatment, and discrimination they receive, in the hands of Arabs. Go to the Middle-East, and you will hear them complaining about Arabs. In fact I’ve come across many Blacks, who dislike Arabs, because of racism towards them.
I currently reside in the UK. While what you say about Asians and blacks mixing in UK, is true to a degree. But you fail to realize there is a limit to their relationship. As far as I’m concerned, they don’t mind having one another as friends, but that’s as far as it gets. I mean, most Asians will totally not be open to the idea of marrying a Black person. But they wouldn’t mind having them as friends and collegues. The same can be said about Arabs. They will tolerate you as an associate, but not a marraige partner. Reason due to racism.
Acceptance of some of them, of the Black Ghetto culture, does not mean they now regard blacks any higher or even the same class as them. They still view them as niggers, and inferior.
Frank, just because some of those Muslims listen to Rap, Hip Hop, wear clothes inspired by Blacks, does not necessary remove any opinions they hold of the Negriod race. As far as they are influenced, it’s limited to tastes in music and clothes, and so forth. it doesn’t affect their views in Politics, and race. It doesn’t lead them to become ‘Anti-White’. They are far from that. I haven’t came across any of those effected by Black culture, who has become anti-White. In fact all my Brothers love the Black ghetto culture, yet none of them views White as inferior.
Imran Nazar Hosein supposed comments about White people, isn’t the view held by Pakistani’s as a whole. He is not their spokeman. So stop telling us about the opinions of certain Muslim characters, as they if they are a representation of a group of people. Can you show me those comments by the way? I did use to visit his site, and read the articles there. Didn’t come across any hint of racism directed towards Whites.
Overall, as Brown person, Muslim all my life, having lived amongst Arabs, and Asian Muslims, I would just like to make it very clear, they are racist towards Blacks. They will even treat a White non-Muslim, better than a Black Muslim. I can list a lot of things to support what I’ve said, along with the evidence. But I believe it’s a well known fact, and unless you force me too show it, that Blacks are generally viewed as inferior amongst the other races. I don’t see the need to provide any further details, than the ones I did in this thread.
Al-Sudani,
The point here is the toxic AND GROWING influence of black ghetto kaafir culture. This degenerate NAP (Negro American Pagan) culture by way of the media has come to influence the Muslim world–the youth, in particular–in ways that would’ve been unfathomable 30 years ago. Also, the Muslims of the West influence the Muslims in the old countries. Western Muslim youth go back to the old countries bringing this NAP culture with them. Ignorant Muslim youth see these NAP imitating visitors/relatives as being “cool.” This is where the danger lies. As the deviant black ghetto kaafir culture becomes INCREASINGLY NORMALIZED–and it is becoming increasingly normalized–then the racial taboos will be eroded. Now it’s good not to be racist–but it IS GOOD to hate an immoral and retrograde culture. It is clear that the Jews are using black ghetto kaafir culture and its “hipness” and “trendiness” to influence Muslim youth–and attack the morals and values of Muslims–just as the Jews did the same with the youth of the West.
In summary it is naive to think that this noxious NAP culture only influences the Muslim world marginally. Its influence is growing, and if Muslims don’t stand up now and call a spade a spade and speak out against it, it will become a cancer in the Ummah that will take innumerable casualties.
With Allah is the sucess.
Swarth Moor;
Salam.
As I said, I haven’t denied the influence of Black ghetto culture.
I have read what you have said throughout this thread. My comment above was focused on replying to Frank’s arguments concerning the influence of the Black Ghetto Culture, on Muslims;
- The fact that the influence of this culture isn’t as widespread among the Muslims worldwide, as Frank argues. The majority of the Muslims aren’t effected by it.
- The influence hasn’t led those Muslims who are effected by this culture, to class Blacks any higher than they are already classed.
- Those Muslims still view Negroids as a low class race.
- Those Muslims still view the Caucasian race as superior to the Negriod.
- Those Muslims do not become anti-White.
Now I do not reject the fact this terrible influence is growing. I did not reply to your comments because I agree with what you’ve been saying.
Indeed there is a danger of this Culture becoming widespread in Muslim nations. And I agree with everything you said. My comment above wasn’t focusing on those points. Rather the effect it has currently. I do not think that this .’noxious NAP culture’ as you call it, only influences the Muslim world marginally. I didn’t argue that. I was talking about the fact most of the effect it has on Muslims, is on those Muslim youth residing in the West. What you are saying is the potential for it to spread, and affect other Muslims elsewhere. The future impact. That is a point I didn’t address, and neither disagree with.
I don’t have any disagreements with you presently. I have and continue to agree on what you’ve said so far.
@ As-Sudani
Salaam,
What is important here is that Muslims do NOT SLEEP on the spread of this NAP culture. I just came from a local shop and saw a young Yemeni(?) Muslim doing, what we call in these har parts, “the jig-thing.” We need to read trends, understand who/what is behind these trends, and anticipate where this thing is going. I am with you that the Muslims have not been infected as easily as some other cultures by this negro neo-jahiliyyah “culture.” Praise Allah, the culture of Islam, especially, the fact that Muslims still see fornication as an evident evil, has insulated us… to a certain degree. But again, the TRENDS indicate that the current general moral revulsion regarding fornication is weakening. And it is weakening largely because of the viral spread of popular culture–in particular this vulgar gutter rap culture that’s promoted by you know whom.
Also, it is important to understand that white/”light” racism in the Muslim community is less pernicious than the effects of NAP culture. A Muslim who has a superiority complex based on his complexion isn’t the same as a person who has no regard for (or notion of) morality. As it is today, in most of the Muslim world, the problem isn’t that (relatively) bad in regard to the BKGC. However, we do have to understand that the trends and influences are not going from Muslim lands to kaafir lands, but in the other direction. Muslims–youth, particular–are looking to the West for their values, and hip hop/rap happens to be on the vanguard of Western culture today.
With Allah is the success.
Swarth Moor;
Salam
Well said. I totally acknowledge what you’re saying. I am of the same mind.
I don’t know whether you’re disagreeing with anything I’ve said above? I’m not sure if you’re responding to something I’ve said.
If you don’t agree with something, can you point it out? As I don’t see where our differences lie. We appear to be on the same path.
Al Sudani I said it was the Muslims in the West who are influenced by African American ghetto culture, I never mentioned Muslims in traditional Muslims countries.
People from the Gulf treat many people badly, not just blacks. So to point out blacks being treated badly in Qatar is a straw man, because they treat just about all outsiders with suspicion.
The influence of African American ghetto culutre is GROWING amongst Muslims. It is becoming a global trend. That is why I call it Judeo-Islam, because the Muslims are buying into Jewish agitprop. In my talking to nationalist in numerous European countries they tell me the Muslims there are turning into lighter skinned niggers, and these are people who have some respect for Muslims in their own countries.
Here is the link to Imran Hosein making anti white comments, even saying white Muslims aren’t doing nothing about Iraq and Afghanistan, while he aint really doing nothing either.
http://muslimvillage.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t12725.html
Frank;
You said – “Al Sudani I said it was the Muslims in the West who are influenced by African American ghetto culture, I never mentioned Muslims in traditional Muslims countries.”
In your previous post, you stated:
“Al Sudani you should listen to Swarth Moor, he admits that MANY Muslims are influenced by black ghetto kafir culture,”
You were not specific. You said ‘many Muslims’, which includes Muslims worldwide.
You said – “People from the Gulf treat many people badly, not just blacks. So to point out blacks being treated badly in Qatar is a straw man, because they treat just about all outsiders with suspicion.”
Lol. In the Gulf, they treat both Asians and Blacks as low class. And whites as High class. It’s not even debatable. If you want to fool yourself into believing they treat Whites bad too, then show me how so. What do they say to them? What do they do them? What’s their attitude towards them like? Go on, show me.
You said – “The influence of African American ghetto culutre is GROWING amongst Muslims. It is becoming a global trend. That is why I call it Judeo-Islam, because the Muslims are buying into Jewish agitprop. In my talking to nationalist in numerous European countries they tell me the Muslims there are turning into lighter skinned niggers, and these are people who have some respect for Muslims in their own countries.”
I didn’t reject the fact it’s growing. I never said otherwise. I was talking of the current effects it has.
You said- “Here is the link to Imran Hosein making anti white comments, even saying white Muslims aren’t doing nothing about Iraq and Afghanistan, while he aint really doing nothing either.”
First, as I said in my response to you above, this proves nothing, since he isn’t the spokeman for any Group of people, certainly not Pakistani’s.
Secondly, isn’t that link you showed, a forum where anyone can simply register with any name they want?? How can you prove to me it’s actually really the Scholar Imran Hosein behind those remarks??
I believe this; (http://www.imranhosein.org/) is his site.
Al-Sudani,
My last post disappeared. I just wanted to say that we are not disagreeing. I just think that it is important not to merely look at what is, but to anticipate the trends. Black kaafir ghetto culture is having an increasing influence on the Muslims–youth, in particular–and that should be a grave concern for all of us.
With Allah is the success.
Swarth Moor;
Salam.
Well of course I’m concerned about it’s impact, and the fact it’s growing. As a brown man, I am completely embarrassed about this culture, and what it is promoting. It gives us a bad image. Not all of us are like that. A lot of us are serious, hard working, individuals contributing to society in various ways. I denounce this pathetic culture with the strongest terms possible.
I wish we Brown-Black people can take pride in something that benefits humanity, not the opposite. I wish we as a race, can promote good, not evil.
May Allah SWT help us achieve this.
instead of trying to bring the religion to the black man you down him with out even knowing him but u worship this white and see no fault n him while cant find know race n history who has murdered and stole as this white man has done. you talk about rap music although the majority of it is bad i admit that as black man but i bet when this filthy race of people and all the black slaves that follow their enemy rode into bagdad,supply the filthy zionist with bombs,over throw elected officials,hate the arab as much as he hates the black man he aint listening to rap music. you all problem is u fear the white people more than u fear Allah,u help your enemies kill muslims,u bow to your white god not out of respect but fear. u will disrespect a black muslim or any darker muslim even n Mecca but follow your white socalled christian enemy who has never followed the teaching of prophet jesus. a people that brung homosexuality to the world,thieviery and murder.
Muhammad Hassan:
To whom, are you responding too?
mostly to frank but to anyone who shares his warp way of thinking. as a black man who is trying to pick his self up from the dirt and filth of amerikkka and its ways i think the brothers who say they are the real muslims should help those who have been totally destroyed and trying to find their true path by the will of Allah back to the straight path as we say in salat.thisdevil frank talking about rap this and that but have this lise infested incestual animal every said anything about all this killing takeing place by these so called christians. who has spilled more blood on this earth rap music or conntry music loveing so called good white people.what has crept into the umma is a disgrace and the prophet peace beapun it knew it thats x he said 3 generations after me my umma will know longer b of me. so i fast and pray to Allah to c this world destroyed because i know Allah owns it but a wicked ruler who only Allah can and will remove by his power so dont get caught up with this cheap,silly little power our enemy got because for the believing muslim shall never fear u or your lies. fear Allah and u will start seeing your enemy for who they are. free Palestine,free Iraq,freeChenenya,Kashmir,free darfur
@ Hasan
Muslims should reach out to the dispossesed. Such people usually are more inclined to Islam. That’s true. At the same time, and this is one of the sound points Frank makes: Immigrant Muslims (talking about youth/second generation) and African-American Muslims have not been adequately critical of NAP culture (Negro American Pagan). As a result, this gutter culture is increasingly consuming the society. Comparing rap to country music isn’t accurate, because you don’t see Muslim youth rockin’ Real Tree and Mossy Oak, drinking Wild Turkey, talkin’ about gettin’ the hounds up on some coons and ‘possums. But you see PLENTY of Muslim youth wearing the latest rapper costumes–and imitating the gutter-culture of the NAPs. And this isn’t just going on in the American suburbs–it’s going on all over the Muslim world.
The challenge for African-American Muslims is to mold their identity–a new identity–from the Shar`. And it is the duty of the African-American Muslims to stomp on this NAP culture, before it continues to cause more harm the AA Muslims and Muslims in general.
Swarth moor I say this to u I work with my black people on this matter but to say how blacks dress and all this stupidity when I see a enemy come before u n his fancy suite smileing and all the while planning on murder. Just look at all the puppit goverments in the socalled middle east who welcome the enemy with hugs and kisses and give them permission to destroy Iraq and Gaza may Allah kill all the enemies who supported amerikkka and the Zionist enemy. Allah-Akbar for the life of me I don’t understand how u all can attack rap although it has many faults but many of your will grow up on wall street were the thiefs n their thousand dollar suites will teach them. How can people tell another something about right and wrong but ant store,any liquior store u go to those same people saleing swine,liquior,Porno books but i guess that the new generations of Muslims
as a black man and muslim i have 2 strikes against me but the problem with most people is they try to befriend their enemy who or know more than a enemy. so amerikkka uses u and when he gets through with u he do u like he did his friend Saddam. so i c a lot of my brothers trying to appease the carcausian but all the time their planning your destruction. so who has caused more destruction to the so called righteous muslim of the middle east?Frank how can u talk about black when just a few years ago u little white boys were and are listen to roc an roll a committing suicide and killing your family but it dont get media coverage.killing and robbery when i hear a arab or any other person equate that with black people but turn a blind eye to a people who supply the zionist enemy with money,weapons and go to the middle east and stand n your front yard and tell u they fixing to kill your brothers and sisters before they start killing and u have the nerve to talk about a black man.mayAllah rectiefy our condition.so next time u c a black ghetto or whatever u call us come to u maybe we are comeing to give salat and the one n the socalled righteous suite is always more than likely comeing to kill.i thank Allah for his mercy.
@ Muhammad
It’s not an either-or proposition. One can condemn the cleptocracy of the secular globalists AND the ghetto negro hedonists. The difference is that Muslim youth, generally speaking, don’t consider the folks in the suits stealing nations to be “hip.” Furthermore, those folks (the global consumer secularists) have developed a sophisticate system of technology and networks that COULD be of tremendous benefit to humanity. Now, name for us something the NAPs have contributed to civilization… uh, other than music and chasing balls–oh, and giving Billy Bob and Jethro jobs for Wackenhut at the state pen. Do you honestly think if the NAPs somehow were given control of the secular world order for five years the earth be a better? Or would it look like a global version of “Soul Plane?”
@ Hasan
First you need to tone down your rhetoric–unless you want to get “a visit”… if you know what i am saying. Secondly, you need to stop seeing yourself as someone’s victim. The Negro is in his condition because he FAILED. His ancestors got caught, sold, humiliated, and made into slaves by a technologically more sophisticated civilization. For the Muslim Africans, this was a tragedy and violation of their rights–but it is the result of their collective failure not to abide by the Shari`ah. As for the African mushriks, they got what they deserved. That’s what Allah had willed for Africans brought to America–get over it.
Now the Negro pagan persists in his condition because HE ENJOYS BEING A FAILURE. Tell the American Negro pagan to leave out the drugs, laziness, anti-intellectualism, drinking, monkey music, fornication, silly little rap costumes and crass consumerism, and you know as well as i do, that he will curse you the %$@# OUT!!! Life is easy for the Negro pagan, for he can always blame others for his problems. Ya, the Negro pagan is going to blame the money grubbin’ jaahil “Ay-rabs” at the corner store (as they say) for selling him 40′s, lottery tickets, and swine–as if the NAP had some plan to run an organic healthfood co-op in its stead. African-American Muslims need to LIBERATE themselves from this Negro American mushrik mentality and think like OBEDIENT MUSLIMS and not victimized/traumatized pagan slaves.
To my Muslim brothers I mean no disrespect and I ask Allah for forgiveness. I will make know more comments on this site but I say to the one with the threating message please by Allah come visit it will b your last visitation because I will have know problem killing u and who ever come with u. I rather die than be a coward so any man come around my family he better b ready to do the same.AllahAkbar. Don’t never think your blood can’t and want be shed. So I pray to Allah that as you say you want to visit.
Muhammad,
I wasn’t threatening you at all–i was advising you… if you want the talk that radical revolutionary rap, you will get a visit not by me–but by the alphabet cops. I’m confident you don’t need that mess in your life.