Comments on: How the FBI tricked Tarek Mehanna with a Conspirator (or at least how it is reported)

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:13:10 +0000

Maybe saad has more American than muslim in his identification as an American Muslim.

saad, no disrespect, but it seems like you value free speech over the rights of allah and his messenger.

Faruq, right on my man. NO respect for allah, no respect for that person. simle as that.

By: Maverick

Maverick — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:09:39 +0000

@ Sufi Talib of Shk. Hamza Yusuf: – Bro, I had come to expect more from his students than what I’ve seen from you. I sincerely hope you weren’t engaging in some sort of rivalry / partisanship by posting all of those statements of Tarek. The critical fact here is that none of those statements were a crime, much less anything one should be sent to jail for. If you are trying to link those statements to his arrest, then you’re way off track. And if you did that out of spite because if Tarek’s views on Shk Hamza, then you’re also way off track.

@ Saad: – Dude, just so that you know, this Frank guy is a self-styled apostate. He claims he was Muslim before, and then he left Islam. He comes here just to troll. Try to ignore him.

By: Faruq Ibn Khaldun

Faruq Ibn Khaldun — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:21:41 +0000

@Saad: Why on earth are you defending Frank? He cursed Allah ta’ala and our religion wal-3iyyathubillah!

So-called freedom of speech does not extend to saying “FIRE!” in a crowded theatre, so what about when a person dares to curse the Creator of the universe by calling Him fake? How repulsive.

If he wants to come here to learn about the religion by being respectful and asking questions sincerely, this is one thing. To curse God is entirely another.

By: Saad

Saad — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:15:48 +0000

@ Mike,
When we live in other people’s countries, we follow their laws as long as their laws allow us to practice our religion freely. As a result, matters of crime and punishment are in the hands of the government and if they choose to punish a guy, they have the right to. We may not like that but if our brother is guilty of a crime, the government has right to punish him.

@ Zookeeper,
Your approach is not effective at all. You should not hate a fellow being who has come to our forum. You should not curse someone like that either.

@ Frank,
Thank you for your support of free speech. Even if you hate the content of the guy’s speech, we can at least agree on the fact that arresting someone for being a ‘chicken hawk’ is unconstitutional.

By: Zookeeper

Zookeeper — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:04:27 +0000

Frank I sincerely hate you for the sake of Allah.

May Allah make all your offspring sincere pious Muslims, and May they curse you and what you stand for, amen

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:19:22 +0000

Mike, The United States of America sees all religions as having no authority in its jurisdiction. Religions are a private matter, no voice in the public sphere. Islam is a fake religion like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, etc.

From my perspective Allah is fake. What he/she says has no meaning. Allah is a run of the mill fraud who needs death to make his point… LOL !

By: petros

petros — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:13:47 +0000

“we need to be everywhere to show the people the truth and light of Islam”

What if they have their own light and truth that works for them already?
Islam isn’t the first religion that has rules on moral conduct.

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 04:36:18 +0000

Frank,

Firstly, which country sees Islam as a fake religion? Im guessing you mean the U.S.A. As you can tell, I am a research, fact based kind of guy. So, according to you the U.S sees islam as a fake religion, if I am correct. Please kindly provide for me documentation from the constitution ( bill of rights, amendments, etc) or presidential edicts, congressional votes, public referendums, that state Islam is a fake religion and does not belong in the U.S ( sorry, fox news polls do not count as official American Policy and neither does your opinion or mine .

Secondly, from a muslim perpective, Allah says in the Quran, “To Allah belongeth all that is in the heavens and on earth”. The entire earth and lands belong to Allah, no muslims will dispute this. Just because a certain person or entity rules a certain place for a period of time, does not negate this fact. So although its better for muslims to live in a ”muslim” country, we need to be everywhere to show the people the truth and light of Islam. May Allah open your heart to it.

In any case, Im just waiting for documentation from Sufi Talib.

Cheers,
Mike

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:52:56 +0000

Mike,

You’re sincerely welcome. Now can you tell me why a guy/girl who thinks Islam is superior to all other would be in a country that sees Islam as a fake religion?

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:05:34 +0000

Frank,

Thanks for your beneficial input. It added invaluably to my research.