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	<title>Comments on: UPDATE: Qaradawi to oversee &#8211; Producer of Movies, &#8220;The Matrix&#8221; and &#8220;The Lord of the Rings&#8221; in discussions for a movie about Prophet Muhammad (s)</title>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually agreeable even though Ethiopians have light skin, such as the Habesha (tigrigna, tigray, amhara etc) they were usually never sold as slaves.

Most of the so called &quot;Habesha&quot; slaves from Ethiopia were actually not from the ruling class of ethnic Habesha of the Axum kingdom but from the wild Nilotic tribes that would be enslaved. The name Habesha stuck on them for the sole purpose that they originated from the land of the Habesha or ardul Habesha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually agreeable even though Ethiopians have light skin, such as the Habesha (tigrigna, tigray, amhara etc) they were usually never sold as slaves.</p>
<p>Most of the so called &#8220;Habesha&#8221; slaves from Ethiopia were actually not from the ruling class of ethnic Habesha of the Axum kingdom but from the wild Nilotic tribes that would be enslaved. The name Habesha stuck on them for the sole purpose that they originated from the land of the Habesha or ardul Habesha.</p>
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		<title>By: Agreeable</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agreeable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more with zookeeper. Anyone who knows the difference between africans would be disturbed and think about that during the whole movie.
Just because they put west africans as somalis i couldn&#039;t finish watching the movie because it disturbed me so much in &quot;black hawk down&quot;.

And in the message bilal was very dark but ethiopians(habashis) have light brown skin.

Doing a mistake like that is like portraying a french guy as a Indian (if you know what i mean).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more with zookeeper. Anyone who knows the difference between africans would be disturbed and think about that during the whole movie.<br />
Just because they put west africans as somalis i couldn&#8217;t finish watching the movie because it disturbed me so much in &#8220;black hawk down&#8221;.</p>
<p>And in the message bilal was very dark but ethiopians(habashis) have light brown skin.</p>
<p>Doing a mistake like that is like portraying a french guy as a Indian (if you know what i mean).</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reply to Smith 
Are you saying that the world will be in peace if you take out all the religions? Cause if you are, then you do not have &quot;reason&quot; nor &quot;logic&quot; and without those i think it will be extremely hard for you to perceive almost anything.But for Islam, the minimum requirement is a brain, because everything is so simple and smart and common sense.
Anyways, even if people don&#039;t fight over religions then they will fight over money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reply to Smith<br />
Are you saying that the world will be in peace if you take out all the religions? Cause if you are, then you do not have &#8220;reason&#8221; nor &#8220;logic&#8221; and without those i think it will be extremely hard for you to perceive almost anything.But for Islam, the minimum requirement is a brain, because everything is so simple and smart and common sense.<br />
Anyways, even if people don&#8217;t fight over religions then they will fight over money.</p>
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		<title>By: James Smith, João Pessoa, Brazil</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Smith, João Pessoa, Brazil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the problems of the world, are, and always have been, caused by religion. Mankind will never truly be free until the black mantle of religion is swept away by reason and logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the problems of the world, are, and always have been, caused by religion. Mankind will never truly be free until the black mantle of religion is swept away by reason and logic.</p>
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		<title>By: MW_M</title>
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		<dc:creator>MW_M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm, don&#039;t know how accurate Montgomery Watt is as a reference, but I do know that Zaid ibn al-harith would grow upset by people making allegations that Usama was not his son due to him being much darker than Zaid. Anyways, I prefer to take my knowledge from the Quran, Sunnah, and the actions of the Sahabah rather than a Mu&#039;tazilite who writes a book on how blacks are superior to whites.

&quot;A white has no superiority over a black nor a 
black has any superiority over a white except by piety and good action&quot;

Guess who said that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm, don&#8217;t know how accurate Montgomery Watt is as a reference, but I do know that Zaid ibn al-harith would grow upset by people making allegations that Usama was not his son due to him being much darker than Zaid. Anyways, I prefer to take my knowledge from the Quran, Sunnah, and the actions of the Sahabah rather than a Mu&#8217;tazilite who writes a book on how blacks are superior to whites.</p>
<p>&#8220;A white has no superiority over a black nor a<br />
black has any superiority over a white except by piety and good action&#8221;</p>
<p>Guess who said that?</p>
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		<title>By: Mustafa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mustafa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“I’m pretty sure Zaid ibn al-Harith was not a black arab. He was a slave, but he wasn’t black. His wife, umm Aiman, was ethiopian though, and his son Usamah ibn Zaid looked black.”

From Wikipedia:

&quot;Zayd was the natural son of a man named Harithah and was adopted by Muhammad. Many years later Harithah found Zayd and asked if his son wanted to go home with him. Zayd said no and that he would stay due to the great love that Muhammad had shown him. Little is known of Zayd&#039;s natural father. Some sources say that Harithah was descended from the Arab poet Imru&#039; al-Qais. One or more of his ancestors may have been of African descent, as he is said to have had very dark skin.&quot;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zayd_ibn_Harithah#cite_note-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I’m pretty sure Zaid ibn al-Harith was not a black arab. He was a slave, but he wasn’t black. His wife, umm Aiman, was ethiopian though, and his son Usamah ibn Zaid looked black.”</p>
<p>From Wikipedia:</p>
<p>&#8220;Zayd was the natural son of a man named Harithah and was adopted by Muhammad. Many years later Harithah found Zayd and asked if his son wanted to go home with him. Zayd said no and that he would stay due to the great love that Muhammad had shown him. Little is known of Zayd&#8217;s natural father. Some sources say that Harithah was descended from the Arab poet Imru&#8217; al-Qais. One or more of his ancestors may have been of African descent, as he is said to have had very dark skin.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zayd_ibn_Harithah#cite_note-0" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zayd_ibn_Harithah#cite_note-0</a></p>
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		<title>By: wHaToNeArThArEyOuTaLkINbOuT'?!?!</title>
		<link>http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2009/11/02/producer-of-movies-the-matrix-and-the-lord-of-the-rings-in-discussions-for-a-movie-about-prophet-muhammad-s/comment-page-1/#comment-163946</link>
		<dc:creator>wHaToNeArThArEyOuTaLkINbOuT'?!?!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmm now am reassessing this, maybe qaradawi is there as an moslem seal of approval for film so that any potential encitement to riot or anything else deemed obnoxious would be discouraged.  ...Tsk tsk tsk, brahzer, Matrix Effigy* makroo.

if u turn it around, would we be equally comfortable in learning lets say, a action movie was being made -religious in orientation, endorsed by I dunno, billy graham or pat robertson? Aren&#039;t people who are supposedly intended to watch this gonna feel icky as a result? Oh, and the audience is not western but eastern. I Dunno man. Was the question ever asked as to Who was really meant to &#039;know&#039; that sheikh qaradawi is envolved. 

I can see the fineprint now,

&quot;This film has the official seal of approval by.....&quot; 

I kid I kid people, relax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm now am reassessing this, maybe qaradawi is there as an moslem seal of approval for film so that any potential encitement to riot or anything else deemed obnoxious would be discouraged.  &#8230;Tsk tsk tsk, brahzer, Matrix Effigy* makroo.</p>
<p>if u turn it around, would we be equally comfortable in learning lets say, a action movie was being made -religious in orientation, endorsed by I dunno, billy graham or pat robertson? Aren&#8217;t people who are supposedly intended to watch this gonna feel icky as a result? Oh, and the audience is not western but eastern. I Dunno man. Was the question ever asked as to Who was really meant to &#8216;know&#8217; that sheikh qaradawi is envolved. </p>
<p>I can see the fineprint now,</p>
<p>&#8220;This film has the official seal of approval by&#8230;..&#8221; </p>
<p>I kid I kid people, relax.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamza21</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hamza21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ MW_M

&quot;I’m pretty sure Zaid ibn al-Harith was not a black arab. He was a slave, but he wasn’t black. His wife, umm Aiman, was ethiopian though, and his son Usamah ibn Zaid looked black.&quot;

If Um Ayman was black (Ethiopian) wouldn&#039;t that make her son Usama black? 

Moreover Al Jahiz in his book &quot;Risalat mufakharat al-sudan &#039;ala al-bidan (Superiority Of The Blacks To The Whites)&quot; written in 9th century (3rd century AH) wrote that Zaid ibn Harith was black as well as Abdul Muttalib and all his sons, including the Prophet&#039;s father Abdullah. Those claims and that book til  this day has not be refuted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ MW_M</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m pretty sure Zaid ibn al-Harith was not a black arab. He was a slave, but he wasn’t black. His wife, umm Aiman, was ethiopian though, and his son Usamah ibn Zaid looked black.&#8221;</p>
<p>If Um Ayman was black (Ethiopian) wouldn&#8217;t that make her son Usama black? </p>
<p>Moreover Al Jahiz in his book &#8220;Risalat mufakharat al-sudan &#8216;ala al-bidan (Superiority Of The Blacks To The Whites)&#8221; written in 9th century (3rd century AH) wrote that Zaid ibn Harith was black as well as Abdul Muttalib and all his sons, including the Prophet&#8217;s father Abdullah. Those claims and that book til  this day has not be refuted.</p>
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		<title>By: Zookeeper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zookeeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this should be entertaining no matter how good or bad it turns out lol. 
BTW in the movie the Message Bilal was played by an actor that looked like he was south Sudanese but in real like he was half arab half Abyssinian. There is no way Bilal looked like that, and there is no way any of the actors will look even close to what they actually looked liked. So as far as historical accurateness goes... forget about it. 

Its like in black hawk down when they got all the west Africans to play Somalis...anyone who doesn&#039;t think all black people look alike would have been distracted by that the whole time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this should be entertaining no matter how good or bad it turns out lol.<br />
BTW in the movie the Message Bilal was played by an actor that looked like he was south Sudanese but in real like he was half arab half Abyssinian. There is no way Bilal looked like that, and there is no way any of the actors will look even close to what they actually looked liked. So as far as historical accurateness goes&#8230; forget about it. </p>
<p>Its like in black hawk down when they got all the west Africans to play Somalis&#8230;anyone who doesn&#8217;t think all black people look alike would have been distracted by that the whole time.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8216;Matrix&#8217; And &#8216;Lord of the Rings&#8217; Producer To Make Movie About The Founder Of Islam &#171; Muslimiam</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8216;Matrix&#8217; And &#8216;Lord of the Rings&#8217; Producer To Make Movie About The Founder Of Islam &#171; Muslimiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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