The End - 2000 to 2009

As you can see here (via TechCrunch) a few people are mad that BestBuy’s thanksgiving advertisement features a 14-letter phrase (or 15 if you count the hyphen).
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Who’s going to BestBuy this weekend?

UPDATE: “Merry Christmas” BestBUY TV AD


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  • 61 Responses for "Best Buy “Happy Eid al-Adha” makes Conservative Christians go crazy"

    1. sms November 23rd, 2009 at 4:31 pm

      haha this doesnt come as a surprise AT ALL.

    2. Abdullah November 23rd, 2009 at 5:15 pm

      loooool

    3. Hamza21 November 23rd, 2009 at 5:37 pm

      I think we should at least send Best Buy a message thanking them in order to encourage more of this. As I’m sure many neo-cons will probably write them denigrating them for doing this.

      Customer Service, Web Site, Store and General/Corporate Inquiries
      Best Buy Corporate Customer Care
      P.O. Box 9312
      Minneapolis , MN 55440
      1-888-BEST BUY (1-888-237-8289)

      Media Inquiries
      Best Buy Public Relations Department
      Email: NewsCenter@bestbuy.com
      Phone: 612-292-NEWS (6397)
      After Hours Pager: 612-618-6703

    4. WhAtOnEaRtHrUtAlKiN'BoUt?!?! November 23rd, 2009 at 6:02 pm

      @ sms: how is this NOT surprising, what is it that you know that I and am presuming most of us dont know? Is it because its simply convenient? dunno, please explain.

      This is fantastic news keeping itself in moderation i guess, since many muslims work very diligently for BestBuy and are large consumers of their electronics and tech. services. Many of my own working class muslim friends work for BB throughout the city and am glad they are getting some recognition SHORT of being accused as being a full blown accomodation to one particular group. Some may have grievance if that does occur, where one group is singled out and put on the pedestal unequally…undeservingly*. NOt to suggest of course that ANY group ought to enjoy meandering around any pedestal of course.

      while sayin that i also think its a great idea on the otherhand what br. Hamza21 is providing: say hello, contact em,’ let em’ know we are here as consumers thereby dismantling the honky notions that somehow we are a bellicose marginal group or the F**in’ 5th column lurking in the background.

    5. al-suyuufi November 23rd, 2009 at 8:45 pm

      haha i just realized it’s because Eid is right around Thanksgiving. it’s nice of em to give us a little recognition.

      this totally beats Obama’s fake and politically-driven Eid messages any way :D

    6. Gordon Greene November 23rd, 2009 at 10:51 pm

      See, the issue is that this is a Christian Nation no matter what Obama says, and that Best Buy swore off Christmas talk about 2006.

      Jus’ sayin’, guys.

    7. Uncle Tom November 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 pm

      Crazy Americans.

      We would have the opposite reaction here in Canada.

    8. Your Worstnightmare November 23rd, 2009 at 11:15 pm

      You people are delusional. Your ‘religion’ is the cause of untold misery around the world. We know it. You know it. So spare the rest of the sane world your delusions.

    9. Brother November 23rd, 2009 at 11:21 pm

      @YourWorstnightmare

      There’s no need to start some type of flame war over religion here. There’s a very easy response to your comment:

      “You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.”
      - Qur’an Sura 109, Verse 6

    10. Brother November 23rd, 2009 at 11:30 pm

      @Gordon Greene

      Sir, where are you getting the idea that America is a Christian nation? From the constitution? Is it because the people that founded this country were Christians?

    11. Gordon Greene November 23rd, 2009 at 11:31 pm

      Brother,

      It’s not a war over religion… it’s the fact that Best Buy is politically correct enough to ban Christmas then to turn around and be politically correct enough to advertise EID.

      Before you go thanking them to much at least be intelligent enough to know when you’re being played for the contents of your wallet.

    12. Gordon Greene November 23rd, 2009 at 11:33 pm

      Brother,

      Yep… start argument right about….

      NOW…

    13. Brother November 23rd, 2009 at 11:41 pm

      Mr. Greene,

      There’s no need for me to start an argument. Best Buy just put it there because Eid this year happens to fall on the day right after Thanksgiving. Of course, they’re using this to attract more Muslim customers, I totally agree with you. I’m in complete agreement with you on that subject.

    14. Gordon Greene November 23rd, 2009 at 11:45 pm

      I was just messin’ around. I didn’t get that from the tone of your post.

      The problem is they aren’t just doing it because of where EID falls, they are clearly pandering. It’s popular to bash Christianity. Not enough Christians defend their faith the way Muslims do to make it uncomfortable for Best Buy.

      I’m hoping we can start changing that sentiment soon.

      Peace.

    15. Brother November 23rd, 2009 at 11:50 pm

      Oh ok, good to know. I think we should all get to know about each other’s religion so we could live in peace.

      Salam (peace).

    16. Gordon Greene November 23rd, 2009 at 11:59 pm

      Brother,

      That’s the crazy thing about it… I have no problem with other people’s faith. I believe what I believe is the only right way but I don’t hate, dislike or disdain others who believe differently. I’m sure you believe your faith is the correct one as well. To me that’s much easier to deal with than someone who is unsure of their faith. At the end of the day there is only one truth, after all.

      If I didn’t believe I was right, my belief would merely be a supposition. I love sharing ideas with reasonable people no matter the disagreement. I hate when the conversation devolves into argument for argument’s sake.

    17. Brother November 24th, 2009 at 12:08 am

      Mr. Greene,

      Fantastic response. I couldn’t agree with you more. Its just like I wrote in my response to YourWorstnightmare above:

      “You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.”
      - Qur’an Sura 109, Verse 6

      And we all just live in peace. In the end, only God can judge us.

    18. 1L November 24th, 2009 at 12:13 am

      @Your Worstnightmare

      You are delusional. American policy is the cause of untold misery to hundreds of thousands of civilians overseas. We know it. You know it. So spare the rest of the sane world your delusions.

      @Gordon Greene

      There’s a fundamental flaw in your argument. Since 2006, no religious holiday greetings in ads, correct? So, 2009 is the first time that “Happy Eid” shows up. Seeing as how it’s NOT CHRISTMAS YET, why don’t people sit down, shut up, and wait to see if BB puts in “Merry Christmas” this year instead of crying foul. There’s obviously been some kind of policy shift in this whole thing.

      I’ve walked into stores at the mall, grocery stores, and pharmacies to hear Christmas song after song being played already. Muslims aren’t griping about that. Yet, one little phrase in an AD, and people start going crazy and calling us all terrorists again.

    19. 1L November 24th, 2009 at 12:15 am

      (And I don’t mean to intrude rudely since I know you guys are/were still discussing in the comments, but I’m already sick of hearing that argument that this whole thing was ignoring Christmas… it’s everywhere, and it’s just flawed.)

    20. Brother November 24th, 2009 at 12:22 am

      @1L

      Just a little correction: Its not hundreds of thousands, its MILLIONS.

    21. Gordon Greene November 24th, 2009 at 12:22 am

      @1L

      “IThere’s a fundamental flaw in your argument. Since 2006, no religious holiday greetings in ads, correct? So, 2009 is the first time that “Happy Eid” shows up. Seeing as how it’s NOT CHRISTMAS YET, why don’t people sit down, shut up, and wait to see if BB puts in “Merry Christmas” this year instead of crying foul. There’s obviously been some kind of policy shift in this whole thing.”

      Nah… I don’t need you telling me when I need to sit or what I need to shut. There is no “fundamental flaw” in my argument any more than there is an “obvious” shift in Best Buy’s policy. I’m not interested in waiting to see. Christians have been quiet about this cultural shift in America and the results are devastating.

      But thanks for asking.

    22. Lessirey November 24th, 2009 at 12:24 am

      an interesting comment from crunchgear

      ” I’m not sure why some of us Christians are upset about a festival that is related to killing goats, when thanksgiving is a holiday where a significant part of the celebration is about killing and eating a turkey, and a few people complain that communion is gross because it’s about drinking blood. Come on! “

    23. Gordon Greene November 24th, 2009 at 12:27 am

      @1L, @Your Worstnightmare

      And, just a little correction for you… America’s policies have freed millions of civilians overseas. To say anything else is truly delusional and revisionist.

    24. Gordon Greene November 24th, 2009 at 12:32 am

      @crunchgear, @lessirey

      Huh? I’m not sure where all the Christian outrage is about killing goats…

      It doesn’t bother me if you kill a goat. Is there a dead goat I need to know about? I guess the more relevant question is, “Does goat go with dressing and cranberry sauce?”

      I’d give it a try.

    25. Gordon Greene November 24th, 2009 at 12:34 am

      @crunchgear, @lessirey

      And for the record… communion is not about drinking blood.

      It’s symbolism and it’s always explained to be that. But I guess if you think it sounds more sensational to put it that way, then have at.

    26. Gordon Greene November 24th, 2009 at 12:39 am

      @abdullah

      loooool? What’s Laugh out out out out out loud?

      loooool That’s funny… it looks kind of like a bed! loooool

      Or maybe five guys looking between fence-posts or a five egg sandwich.

    27. Brother November 24th, 2009 at 12:43 am

      The loooool thing was pretty funny. I’ll give you that, Gordon. I can’t stop laughing.

    28. 1L November 24th, 2009 at 12:55 am

      “America’s policies have freed millions of civilians overseas.”

      I was responding to “Yourworstnightmare’s” comment for a reason. America’s had a major impact on the lives of millions outside the US. But it’s been for both good and bad. It’s biased to assume people have no reason to ever be anything but grateful to the US for the effect our policies have had on them.

      “Christians have been quiet about this cultural shift in America and the results are devastating.”

      What cultural shift? And what quiet? I’m confused at what you’re referring to.

      “I’m not interested in waiting to see.”

      So you’re complaining about something that hasn’t occurred yet? Let me get this straight. A business posts a holiday greeting to X group in November. People get angry because they haven’t posted a similar greeting to Y group for a holiday in December. Yet no one is interested in seeing whether the business puts in that greeting in December?

      Wow. Cuz honestly, Eid moves in terms of date every year. So I would totally be backing you up if BB had not posted “Merry Christmas” in December but then “Happy Eid” in January. Seeing as how you have yet to know whether they were planning to put out a “Merry Christmas” greeting IN DECEMBER, I fail to see why this is such a big deal.

      Also–and this is separate from all the above stuff–at the end of the day, there’s enough Santa-love to go around in retail nationwide to make up for a 14 word message in a weekly ad. So, really, way to be upset over some kid getting a crayon for a gift when you got a pony.

    29. AF November 24th, 2009 at 1:13 am

      Delusional-Gordon Green: “And, just a little correction for you… America’s policies have freed millions of civilians overseas.”

      Yes, freed milions of civilians from their wordly life. Now those milions are dead thanks to US policies. US has been founded on genocide of the native americans, and continued for its whole life as a nation by killing milions of people all over the world. But they dont teach you this, because the “inner goodness” of the US is the dogma of “Americanism”, the true religion of the USA (and not christianity).

    30. Amy November 24th, 2009 at 1:42 am

      It’s pretty cool all the random comments you’ve got going on now, MR. When I saw your tweet this afternoon I thought, dude, I have to come back and see how many crazy comments this gets!

      A few things come to my mind:

      (1) Best Buy can’t “ban” Christmas. If they choose to, or not to make a specific reference to any particular holiday in their sales papers and banners, really, who cares? It’s just a store.

      (2) America is no more a Christian nation than it is a Wiccan nation or a Hindu nation in that some of the people living in America follow that religion. While many American Christians find their American values in harmony with their Christian values, those values can be (and are) shared with people of many faiths, including Islam.

      And those policies of America which happen to conflict with Islam, also conflict with Christianity.

      Religion and culture are not the same. The religious person should be able to take the good in his culture, and leave the bad. The person for whom religion is not a priority will take what he likes of religion, and leave what he dislikes.

      Eid is a holiday intended to honor the legacy of a great man (Abraham) and his immense faith in his Lord, demonstrated by his willingness to sacrifice his only son. It’s not a holiday about shopping or buying TVs or whatnot. I hope Muslims do not allow it to be so commercialized, but mostly I think Muslims could care less whether or not Best Buy mentions Eid.

      Moreover, if among Americans are true Christians, why do they care if Best Buy mentions Christmas in their ads? Is Christmas about buying TVs?

      In peace, all.

    31. Jim November 24th, 2009 at 2:11 am

      I was about to purchase a 50″ tv and a dishwasher for my wife for
      Christmas from Best Buy. But after seeing their add …I just had a change
      of heart and will go down to Sams and do my Christmas shopping.
      Best Buy wants to cater to a few moslims then let the few moslims reach
      out to Best Buy.
      I urge all true loving Americans to take your Christmas shopping elsewhere. Show Best Buy how much we can affect their bottom line by
      sending their sales plummeting to never never land.

    32. Ayoub November 24th, 2009 at 2:20 am

      @greene:

      Look at the U.S. Dollar bill; there are masonic symbols… not christian. Half the signers of the Constitution were Freemasons. Francis Scott Key, the creator of the U.S. Anthem was a prominent Freemason.

      An islamic nation was one of the first to recognize U.S.A. as a legitimate self-governing idependent nation…

      U.S. Treaty of Tripoli:

      “As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, – as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen (Muslims), – and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahomitan nation (Islamic Nation), it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries (U.S. and Morocco).”

      U.S.A. was trying to distance herself from being like a European Christian Crusader Empire.

    33. al-suyuufi November 24th, 2009 at 3:03 am

      Have fun Jim, too bad consumerism influences the average American more than political belief…we are a very consumer-society and the consumer in us almost always overpowers the citizen in us. That’s why someone can complain about how terrible Walmart is for small businesses, and then shop there for low prices. People won’t stop going to Best Buy just because they said hey to a bunch of Muslims, and Muslim won’t especially start supporting Best Buy either. Personally, I’ll shop there cause I shop there anyway, this has little effect in the end.
      All it is, is a nice gesture that we appreciate.

    34. sms November 24th, 2009 at 11:06 am

      @WhAtOnEaRtHrUtAlKiN’BoUt?!?!

      I meant it comes as no surprise that Christian fundamentalists and right wing nut-jobs would have a problem with Best Buy wishing everyone a Happy Eid-Al-Adha. They would NOT have a problem if Best Buy was wishing everyone a Happy Hanukkah or Happy Diwali. These groups are hell-bent on being anti-Muslim on any and every issue concerning Muslims. Thats why this doesnt come as a surprise to me.

      Of course its not surprising that Best Buy would do this considering the HUGE Muslim consumer base they have. Christians have NOTHING to complain out. Who cares if they don’t say Merry Christmas? Does Best Buy decorate its stores with Eid decorations and play Eid carols over the intercom? No. Everything about the term “Happy Holidays”, the decorations, the songs, the trees, etc.. points to the Christmas holiday. And now cause Best Buy puts one tiny circle that says Happy Eid-al-Adha, these idiots are going nuts. Gimme a break…seriously.

    35. al-suyuufi November 24th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

      Nice job on the BestBuy forums MR! (maShaAllah)

    36. scott November 24th, 2009 at 9:57 pm

      Best Buy Sure picked a STUPID time to wish muslims well after one of the crazy ones went psyco in FT. Hood! Apparently Best Buy knows how much tax payers money is getting sent in low or no tax loans and grants to the muslims and they are going for the gold this BLACK Friday!

    37. Gordon Greene November 24th, 2009 at 10:07 pm

      @scott

      Scott,

      Well… Scott.

      That’s all I can say… Nah. That’s never all I can say.

      Are you trying to help?

    38. scott November 24th, 2009 at 10:13 pm

      Neither—-I’m a business man and I call it like I see it.

    39. Gordon Greene November 24th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

      Scott… is that what business men do? I’m also not sure what neither means. What were the choices?

      What kind of business are you in? Does cranberry sauce really go with everything?

      These and other questions…

    40. MoonUnit November 24th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

      I work for Best Buy Consumer Relations and I am so unbelievably sick of getting call ins about this. You wouldn’t believe the ignorant comments I’m getting from people concerning this little comment in an ad. The best part is people are complaining to me about a Muslim sacrificial holiday and backing Christianity, not realizing the Old Testament is full of animal sacrifices. Of course I can’t say a thing but it truly saddens me to see how ignorant certain people in our country are concerning people that have different beliefs than they do.

    41. Gordon Greene November 24th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

      MoonUnit

      BS alert… I don’t know any Christians that are looking at this from an animal sacrifice perspective. Just so you know, though: we don’t sacrifice animals anymore. Just thought you’d like to know.

    42. al-suyuufi November 25th, 2009 at 2:49 am

      rofl on the BestBuy forums someone called Eid al-Adha a human sacrifice holiday…

    43. Ayoub November 25th, 2009 at 2:41 pm

      “Best Buy does actually have an ad that wishes Christians Merry Christmas. Here’s the link to see the commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PkZHBgO3pw&feature=player_embedded
      Shame on the Christians in the US who are boycotting Best Buy for wishing Muslims a Happy Eid Ul Adha! America was founded on religious tolerance and in that spirit the American people should be glad to wish Muslims a Happy Eid. In Muslims countries such as Saudi Arabia, Christians freely celebrate Christmas and no one hates them because of it. It is sad to see so many people express hate towards Muslims and towards anyone who acknowledges a Muslim holiday.”

      -Rali8915

    44. MoonUnit November 25th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

      Gordon.

      If you missed it in my post, I’m in Consumer Relations at Best Buy and have taken many calls on this issue. I’ve heard the animal sacrifice perspective mentioned several times.

    45. jet November 25th, 2009 at 4:00 pm

      Shouldn’t they be complaining about the turkey sacrificing holiday which BestBuy is celebrating.

    46. Gordon Greene November 25th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

      MoonUnit

      I didn’t miss it in your post. That’s what I was responding to.

      How many calls have you personally received on the subject and how many mentions of the animal sacrifice perspective do you consider several?

    47. Gordon Greene November 25th, 2009 at 5:50 pm

      @Ayoub

      Tut, tut… America was not founded on religious tolerance as much as on freedom of religion. That’s comparing apples and oranges. The founders not only claimed there was but one God, the God of the Bible, but that the Bible should be taught to our children. Not only that, they agreed that the nation not following the principles of Christianity in particular would fail.

      Unfortunately we may soon find out how true that statement is.

      This country does allow freedom of religion as one of its basic tenets, but it was never meant to rule our government or our culture; The basics of Christianity and Judeo-Christian law were. Read history, and I’m not talking about the revisionist tripe taught in society or public education or in the ivy league colleges.

      And the ad? A muddled mess of political correctness. So your point… pointless.

    48. Gordon Greene November 25th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

      @Ayoub; @All

      The other point is that, yes there are those that hate Christians and Christmas. You folks are turning this into a “everybody hates muslims” thing. The issue is that there has been a massive drive to take Christian symbols and everything relating to Christmas out of everything from government buildings to schools, stores and even front yards.

      The assault has been ridiculous. If you’ve missed that, I’m sorry. But the anger is not offensive anger. It’s defensive. I do apologize if it’s taken any other way, but we are just trying to preserve our heritage.

      Gordon

    49. Gordon Greene November 25th, 2009 at 6:11 pm

      @al-suyuufi

      “Human sacrifice holiday”

      Yes, that’s funny and yes, that’s stupidity in action. It’s on both sides of the aisle. Like calling communion a tradition “about drinking blood”.

      Gordon

    50. Ayoub November 25th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

      @Gordon:

      The wine is symbolic drinking of the blood. And the bread (eucharist) is the eating of the body of christ.
      “This is the blood of christ shed for you.” -Priest
      The priest has the power to turn the wine into a sacred symbolic blood of Christ.

      I should know, i was catholic for 16 years.

    51. Gordon Greene November 25th, 2009 at 9:05 pm

      @Ayoub

      “The wine is symbolic drinking of the blood. And the bread (eucharist) is the eating of the body of christ.
      “This is the blood of christ shed for you.” -Priest
      The priest has the power to turn the wine into a sacred symbolic blood of Christ.
      I should know, i was catholic for 16 years.”

      You don’t have to give me the Catholic line card. I know what they believe. My question is why do even former Catholics assume every Christian is Catholic? I know what the symbolism is. There is obvious symbolism in Muslim’s animal sacrifice too, but for Christians drinking the wine is not drinking blood. Distort what you want, but the view on radical Muslims is not a distortion… it’s fact. People bring up all manner of ignorant comparisons on both sides, like the Crusades. We don’t have any active Crusaders today.

      I’m not painting you all with a broad brush and I don’t believe you or any of the other folks on this site are radical Muslims. I’m simply telling you that your culture is a sub-culture of America (a welcome one) yet not the predominant one, nor should it be. If you want it to be the overriding culture under which you live then do that in your own community or go to a country that is primarily Muslim.

    52. Ayoub November 25th, 2009 at 9:07 pm

      I give props to BB for recognizing a major holiday of the largest monotheistic religion; Islam.

      But the anger i read on the BB forums from so-called christians and racists is nothing but anger they already had before they read the “Eid ul Adha” on the BB ad.

      When i buy products from the grocery store; I sometimes see U and K symbols. meaning they’re Kosher. Am I going to raise hell and post my anger online and call the company of that product??? no! I, as well as many muslims, respect Kosher products. My favorite DELI/Bakery/Restaurant is owned by a jewish family. I know some muslims that eat there.

      Despite all the murders and atrocities that Israel gets away with against the Palestinians because of the whitewashing of the media… i dont, and I refuse to label all Jews, and will continue to go to my favorite jewish deli. A lot of jews dont even want to associate with Israel and some are even against Israel (Norman Finklestein, Noam Chomsky, The Neturai Karta of Chassidic Jews).

      Yet, I find that only the christians have a hard time accepting a small grain of Muslim Holiday on an store ad; saying things like “DERKA DERKA JIHAD!!! TOWEL HEAD KABOOOM!”.

      Are you of Jesus or the Devil?

    53. Gordon Greene November 25th, 2009 at 9:08 pm

      @ayoub

      By the way… try getting a practicing Catholic to admit what you said. Those that are not Catholic do not believe the sacraments to be actual blood and flesh. They also do not believe the priest has any more “power” than any other believer.

      And the Pope is just a man (yes, I’m an equal opportunity offender).

    54. ZAI November 25th, 2009 at 9:34 pm

      @ Greene :

      Agree w/ you that there has been a assault going on in America against the Christian religion and culture. That’s especially true when it comes to media or art. I hope Christians put the blame for this where it belongs though: on SECULARISTS and not on the fact that America’s demographics are shifting due to minority faiths.

      I honestly have yet to meet a religious Muslim, Jew or whomever who has attacked Christianity….if anything we know that people of ANY religious faith are all in the same boat when it comes to the secularists. Personally I myself, and millions of Muslims have no issue with Christianity in the public sphere….as long as I’m not forced to kiss a crucifix more power to it….

      That being said….I think it’s important for both Christians and Muslims…not to mention any other religious group….to break out of this pattern of “us vs. them” as if it’s a zero sum game or a cultural war. It is most definitely not, and there is no need for this mutual antagonism. We can all respect eachother and live together.

      Yes, this is a majority Christian nation and they have every right for their culture to be celebrated in the public sphere as long as they don’t force it on others in the private sphere….but I see no reason why anyone has to deny someone else a miniscule nod in a meaningless ad to celebrate their own culture/religion. A

      ny of this Christian anger at suppression, insults, etc. should be directed at the secularists pushing this agenda….not religious minorities.Hell I would tell any Christian out there I 100% prefer a Christian America to Secular Europe….

    55. Gordon Greene November 25th, 2009 at 10:04 pm

      @ZAI

      I feel very much the same as you in respect to other religions but almost no one wants to be level-headed. I totally believe in my faith, and though I may witness and hope others accept it I don’t feel the need to try and compel anyone.

      America is accepting of other faiths. I love that it is, but America’s culture and founding were on Christian principles. What I’d like some Muslims (from Muslim countries) who are preaching to me about religious freedom to answer is this… how much diversity and religious freedom is allowed in their countries? Even in Saudi Arabia there is Christian persecution and it is a predominately Muslim society. If that is how they wish to live I’m not going there and asking that they ‘accept’ my faith. I may wish that they allow me to worship freely, but if they ask me not to advertise my religion in their society I will either respect their request or I would be willing to face the consequences.

      That being said, America was founded on the more inclusive principle of religious freedom with the understanding God (the God of the Jews) and the Ten Commandments were our guiding light.

      Thank you so much for being a voice of reason.

      Peace

      Gordon

    56. qAZI November 26th, 2009 at 12:04 am

      1l, you are an embarrassment. I’m muslim and for anyone to say America is not a nation founded on judeo-christian values is absolutely ignorant. Study the history of this nation and the forefathers and you will see different. That being said, there is a freedom of religion and tolerance in this nation and obv. many don’t abide by that. Muslims need to stop trying to victimize themselves and make a difference. Educate people on what Eid-ul-Adha is. Tell them it tells a story of Abraham and Ismael. That would serve much better than putting your angry hat on and trying to sound intelligent (1L) when you actually sound like a dumbass.

      Thank you Gordon for being tolerant of our religion and not spewing hatred. I only wish there were more people like you.

    57. 1L November 26th, 2009 at 2:40 am

      re: qAZI

      What are you smoking? =P Here are my posts since the beginning. I don’t mention anything about Judeo-Christian foundations of America.

      # 1L November 24th, 2009 at 12:13 am

      @Your Worstnightmare

      You are delusional. American policy is the cause of untold misery to hundreds of thousands of civilians overseas. We know it. You know it. So spare the rest of the sane world your delusions.

      @Gordon Greene

      There’s a fundamental flaw in your argument. Since 2006, no religious holiday greetings in ads, correct? So, 2009 is the first time that “Happy Eid” shows up. Seeing as how it’s NOT CHRISTMAS YET, why don’t people sit down, shut up, and wait to see if BB puts in “Merry Christmas” this year instead of crying foul. There’s obviously been some kind of policy shift in this whole thing.

      I’ve walked into stores at the mall, grocery stores, and pharmacies to hear Christmas song after song being played already. Muslims aren’t griping about that. Yet, one little phrase in an AD, and people start going crazy and calling us all terrorists again.

      # 1L November 24th, 2009 at 12:15 am

      (And I don’t mean to intrude rudely since I know you guys are/were still discussing in the comments, but I’m already sick of hearing that argument that this whole thing was ignoring Christmas… it’s everywhere, and it’s just flawed.)

      # 1L November 24th, 2009 at 12:55 am

      “America’s policies have freed millions of civilians overseas.”

      I was responding to “Yourworstnightmare’s” comment for a reason. America’s had a major impact on the lives of millions outside the US. But it’s been for both good and bad. It’s biased to assume people have no reason to ever be anything but grateful to the US for the effect our policies have had on them.

      “Christians have been quiet about this cultural shift in America and the results are devastating.”

      What cultural shift? And what quiet? I’m confused at what you’re referring to.

      “I’m not interested in waiting to see.”

      So you’re complaining about something that hasn’t occurred yet? Let me get this straight. A business posts a holiday greeting to X group in November. People get angry because they haven’t posted a similar greeting to Y group for a holiday in December. Yet no one is interested in seeing whether the business puts in that greeting in December?

      Wow. Cuz honestly, Eid moves in terms of date every year. So I would totally be backing you up if BB had not posted “Merry Christmas” in December but then “Happy Eid” in January. Seeing as how you have yet to know whether they were planning to put out a “Merry Christmas” greeting IN DECEMBER, I fail to see why this is such a big deal.

      Also–and this is separate from all the above stuff–at the end of the day, there’s enough Santa-love to go around in retail nationwide to make up for a 14 word message in a weekly ad. So, really, way to be upset over some kid getting a crayon for a gift when you got a pony.

    58. Chris November 26th, 2009 at 4:49 am

      Rofl! sweet :D

    59. Lando November 28th, 2009 at 6:40 pm

      MR, u need to screen posts: approve posts before posting them up!!!!

    60. Phil December 2nd, 2009 at 7:04 am

      I concur with Lando.

    61. Alaa December 17th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

      We should respect all religions. Christians get all their holidays recognized and the Jews as well so why not Muslims too? I find it funny how people actually are complaining about a company wishing people a happy holidays…very sad

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